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Digital-Logic Microspace Mini-PCs

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the little-his-better dept.

Hardware 109

frozenray writes: "Digital-Logic AG, a Swiss company, sells two rather cool BX-based mini PCs, the Microspace-PC30 and -PC31. Most notable features are: very compact size, passive cooling (<35 dB according to the manufacturer), an impressive collection of interfaces (including 2xUSB, IRDA, TV Out/In, FireWire, 2xEthernet 10/100, optional smartcard reader, line in/out, microphone), CDR or DVD, 20 GB 2.5" harddisk. The downside: Those are definitely no systems for power users (current processors are 700 MHz Celeron and 700 MHz P3, 1 GHz mobile P4 systems are planned according to this [German] article), the SMI721 graphics controller is nothing for UT addicts, and they're quite expensive (CHF 2'549.- and 3'199.- according to their Swiss distributor, which amounts to approximately US$ 1'517.- / US$ 1'904.- at the current exchange rate). Another caveat: The power supply is external, but I didn't see any pictures of it on their website. Readers may want to compare this design to the TX2 version of the 'Cappuccino' PC which is similar in concept but has a rather loud CPU fan."

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This is the first post (-1)

Klerck (213193) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005250)

This is the first post, and anyone else who tries for it but misses will be fisted by me.

Re:This is the first post (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005383)

FIST ME, you page-lengthening fool! Give it to me like an ANAL COX in heat gives it to LINUS TURDBALLS! Mmmmmm, harder!! Gimme that GNU/Sodomy!!

Karma Suicide!! (0, Offtopic)

jeffy124 (453342) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005255)

After 600+ posts and 20 articles, my karma has been peaked at 50 for what seems like forever now. My new campaign: Karma Suicide!! Every post from now until my karma's back at zero will be this short crapflood posted with my +1 bonus (which i've lost already). So moderators: Do your worst! You got only 7 more points to go! Mod me troll/OT/Overrated/Whatever to get my karma back to where it began. Do this ASAP! And as for the rest of you, commit karma suicide today!

Re:Karma Suicide!! (0, Offtopic)

Sideswiped (259402) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005269)

haha mod this up funny crap ;)

first post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005258)

hahahah

Re:first post! (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005328)

RON RON RON! you are not right, you are RON.

underpowered, overpriced (3, Insightful)

cygnus (17101) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005261)

at those prices, you might as well spring for the new iMac.

Re:underpowered, overpriced (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005423)

shut up, you are disrupting an adult's conversation with your nonsense here, and i do not think that i can tolerate it mch longer..

Re:underpowered, overpriced (2)

Bastian (66383) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005473)

Hmm. . .for just under $2k, I could get a 15" flatscreen, 800mhz G4, 256meg RAM, 60GB HD, Superdrive (w00t), Geforce 2 graphics, all running OS X.
Or, I could get a p3-700, 256meg RAM, a weak-ass graphics chipset (judging from the 4mb(!?) of VRAM, a 20GB hard drive, a 24x DVD-ROM, all running on Windows Me. No monitor included.

Hmm. . . this is gonna be a hard one. . .

Re:underpowered, overpriced (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005920)

Gee...you are a die-hard Mac user...now wonder you are so good at pricing PC hardware! Look, we don't want to spoil your denial, but neither are we going to listen to your stupid shit. Thank you, and good night.

Re:underpowered, overpriced (2)

cygnus (17101) | more than 12 years ago | (#3007889)

yeah i agree. that was just my wiseass way of saying it. :)

Re:underpowered, overpriced (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005717)

Price a PC:

Epox 760MPX Motherboard: $220
512MB Corsair PC2100 ECC Memory: $160
AMD Athlon XP 1800+ Processor x 2: $276.
Seagate 80GB Barracuda IV IDE Drive: $160
Plextor 24x/10x/40x IDE CD-RW: $115
Pioneer 16x DVD Slot-Loading Drive: $75
Planar 17.4" DVI LCD Monitor $600
Geforce 3 Ti500 w/ DVI $240.00
Lian Li PC-62 Aluminum Case with 431W PS: $260.00

Cost: $2,100.00 (hmm I think its faster than the sytem you qouted.... I think!!!!!).

Bashing a macintosh and its overpriced hardware....priceless!!!!!

Hey, AC. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005926)

SuperDrive == Pioneer DVD-R A03 Drive

So, you've miscalculated. And yet your system is still more expensive and less integrated.

Then there's that little question of whether you were going to pay for the operating system and supporting software.

Re:underpowered, overpriced (0)

CrabCakeJimmy2k (540703) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006070)

You really should learn to be a more frugal shopper. I could get the same setup for just over $1600.

Re:underpowered, overpriced (1)

tobyglyn (455427) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006278)

Hmmm, then there is...

Time spend shopping for bits?
Shipping costs of bits?
Time involved in putting bits together, installing OS (Linux of course) and testing?

Go play with a new iMac, look at how nicely put together it is and how well it fulfills its intended function.

Can you feel it? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005262)

Can you feel the floor around that NT server shaking as it tries to build that ASP page for all of us at once?

Re:Can you feel it? (0, Funny)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005384)

Can you feel the floor around that NT server shaking as it tries to build that ASP page for all of us at once?

Re:Can you feel it? (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005410)


Hey, no fair, how come an AC getz +2 funny and nobody moderates me up too, when i actually took the time to log in and make the same intelligent observation?? this is an outrage, you can bet i will be retaining legal counsel concerning the discriminatory distribution of PROPZ on this website. [slashdot.com]

I'll have everyone know that the name Donny Most still carries a lot of weight in todays's modern entertainment society!!! FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's the point? (2, Troll)

MiTEG (234467) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005276)

Why would you buy something like this when you can get a notebook that is faster, quieter, cheaper, smaller, and more power efficient for half the price from Dell [dell.com] ?

Maybe the article explains more, but it seems to be /.'ed.

Re:What's the point? (3, Insightful)

sam_handelman (519767) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005448)

The devices I've seen billed as "Mini PCs" [xycom.com] are a bit smaller than normal laptops, I'd say about 8" x 8" x 3" (it's late, don't jump on me if I'm off.)
People in "industry" buy them, with 286 chips, because they want to make embedded devices but don't want to deal with firmware. I have some friends who make scientific instruments, they use them for this purpose as well.

The only use I can think of for something with about 1 Ghz of power - and it's a pretty strange one - is as a control system for really outre field analytical devices, if I wanted to make them portable. I'm talking about a device with really a lot of intelligence that is basically built into a laptop casing, with room to spare to make it a bit tougher.

The big problem with this, of course, is that anyone who is thinking of carrying around such a device (parts alone upwards of 30 grand, depending on what exactly it is, plus value added from being custom made by multiple PhDs) can get a laptop. It would seem to be much simpler to control the device from the laptop, like we allready do for the few devices that work this way.

For one thing, there is little point in doing sophisticated analysis in the field if you don't have a moniter to view the results.

Laptops to become obsolete? (1)

citking (551907) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005277)

It seems technology is advancing past us once again. Remember when the first 25 mhz laptops came out? Of course, the prices for these micro-machines are a bit outrageous, but, given time and practical application, these new wonders might just become as commonplace as a ThinkPad or Inspiron.

I can see it now... "Honey, have you seen where I put the computer? I thought it was next to my car keys!"

Alan Thicke. DEAD. (-1)

Alan_Thicke (553655) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005285)

I just heard the sad news on CBC radio. Comedy actor/writer Alan Thicke was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never liked his work, you can appreciate what he did for 80's television. Truly a Canadian icon.
He will be missed :(



Show me That Smile (The Growing Pains Theme Song):

Show me that smile again.
Ooh show me that smile.
Don't waste another minute on your crying.
We're nowhere near the end.
We're nowhere near.
The best is ready to begin.

As long as we got each other [slashdot.org]
We got the world
Sitting right in our hands.
Baby rain or shine;
All the time.
We got each other
Sharing the laughter and love.

Re:Alan Thicke. DEAD. (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005437)

wow, CBC radio reportz this news like every single day! they are on the cutting edge of good news, and i am glad to have my radio tuner dialed into them 24/7. IT GETZ ME THROUGH THE LONELY DAYS.

Wow, that's nifty (3, Insightful)

Microlith (54737) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005289)

I wonder what it's shock tolerances are. That looks like something you'd stick in your trunk, hook up a few wires, and have a car mp3 player with all of an hour's effort.

As for replacing laptops... no.

Laptops are much more convenient, an entire display and input system integrated into the casing. This thing looks like a super-small replacement for that big box on most people's desk. Get the CEO that nice 19" flatpanel, nice mouse, keyboard, everything, and mount one of these things under his desktop. Much easier to handle upgrades, and cheaper.

Now, hopefully prices will come down sometime soon.

why settle for audio player (1)

slaida1 (412260) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006597)

when you could have a LAN in your car, where NFS box is in the trunk, 4 or 5 workstations for all passengers, switchrack in the middle console, mailserver and uplink/remoteaccess boxes under the front seats! wow!

How is this news? (5, Insightful)

Have Blue (616) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005318)

I'd expect to read this in an ad banner, not an article. Is there anything that even remotely "matters" about this thing?

Re:How is this news? (0)

Poppageorgio (461121) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005357)

Actually, small footprint systems, of any price, matter to some of us. If it dosen't matter to you, then don't read the article.
.

"Don't read the article"??? CUNT OFF! (-1)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005711)

Where's the option to not display blatant advertisment articles? There should be a separate topic icon for worthless shit like this. Maybe a picture of Taco taking it up the ass by the top hat dude from Monopoly.

Small footprint systems? There'll be a large footprint on your butt if you post any more shit, you filthy wop!

Re:How is this news? (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005455)


yes, it's not worth paying attention to, just like the gamecube, because everybody prefers the microsoft xbox, because it is large and therefore far more newsworthy.

example, you sit on a gamecube, what happens? it gets stuck up yuor asse. you sit on a microsoft xbox, what happens? NOTHING. in fact, there's so much room left that you could probably make love with your lover o top of the thing....and that is something that is very important in today'z SEXY WORLD.

Re:How is this news? (2, Offtopic)

2Bits (167227) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005611)

Come on man, your ID shows that you are an early /.er, and you should know better. /. is not really about news. It's about anything considered geeky, cool, neat. It's about a religion called Linux^H^H^HGNU/Linux, and it's about bashing MS. It's also about testing web server load and capability.

18th post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005326)

HA! First 18th post, baby!

love the vervetroll (I'm not re-logging in).

Even better- 12th post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005333)

I'm 66% better than I thought!

vervetroll will be your master... tomorrow.

YAY WEEE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005329)

MORE WEARABLES FOR OUR MIND!

Sleazy jew lawyers (-1)

Ralph JewHater Nader (450769) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005341)

Does anyone ever call the number on those terrible zionist tort lawyers TV ads? I think not.

Re:Sleazy jew lawyers (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005470)


i have called them. they are great. YOU SIR, you are NOT GREAT, thatz why i DO NOT CALL YOU.

PS i am gay and the man i love is a black jew. WE ARE CRATED EQUALZ by lord, but you make lord cry with your spitey wordz.

"FUCK the STRATES, eat their 'children', we should own there LAND!!" - homogay chant, i frimly beleve this

Re:Sleazy jew lawyers (-1)

Ralph JewHater Nader (450769) | more than 12 years ago | (#3008347)

Great. My name got hijacked by a dirty subhuman nigger.

Re:Sleazy jew lawyers (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3009424)

Hey lover! that'z a very keen observation, mr. jew no. 450769. itz really true. [slashdot.org]

Jews are Nazis (-1)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005719)

I simply load the numbers into my wardialler that automatically dials them up in the middle of the night and plays Deutschland uber Alles at full volume down the phone line.

Swastika my Salvation.

Honey, have you seen the computer.... (5, Funny)

Ooblek (544753) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005344)

Me: "Honey, have you seen the computer laying around anywhere? I need to fire up Quicken and pay some bills."

Wife: "I think the dog ate it. You better take a plastic bag with you when you take him for a walk."

This makes portable MP3 player take on a whole new meaning.

Interview with the son of Goatse! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005345)

Please mod this up to +5, Informative!

Son of Goatse: http://www.conhugeco.org/goatse.cx/ [conhugeco.org]

Interview: http://www.bmezine.com/news/people/A20210/plp56/in dex.html [bmezine.com]


BME: When did you first realize that your ass could be the source of pleasure?

While watching porno films I saw women getting dick in their ass all the time and they seemed to like it a lot, so I thought I'd give it a try.

BME: What was it like the first time you stuck anything in your ass?

I was about twenty at the time the first time I tried it. The first time -- actually most of the first year -- I took no pleasure from it. But, I knew that the porn stars seemed to enjoy it, so I stuck at it and grew to love it as well.

BME: Why did you start putting larger objects in?

I saw gay films where men who were taking whole arms up their ass were getting pleasure from it. I learned to take pleasure from stretching my ass, and the wider I opened it, the more pleasure I took.

BME: How quickly were you able to move up to bigger items? Do you have a training regime?
[bmezine.com]
It took me about two years to be able to take a wine bottle, and four years to take a 32cm ball. Recently I've been able to take a big ball, much bigger than the bottle. To pass that level I had to first train my ass with bigger bottles, like 1.5L pop bottles. There were a number of painful sessions with a lot of blood and ass-hurt for about four days after each session.

Because I am not comfortable writing in English, I will tell you my personal method in French.

BME: Thanks, I'll do my best to translate it for the readers. (Note: The following answer was translated by BME -- I apologize for errors in the translation.)

When I first started, I was using small bottles of shampoo. After that, I tried small apples, and then bigger ones. At this point I'd put a year of stretching in, and bought myself a large dildo.

My method was to dilate my ass as often as I could -- every day, even if just for a short while. Before starting it's important to use a large dildo; use it to both warm up and clean your ass, so make sure you stick it up all the way. When you find that you can take this large dildo without any work-up or preparation, then you know that you're ready to take it to the next step.

Then, in each session, to get your bottom prepared, put in a big cucumber. Soon you'll arrive at a point where even the biggest cucumbers you can buy at the grocery fit easily in your ass. Now you're ready to get serious. Buy a small Coke bottle, and use that in your ass. When that passes in and out easily, move on to bottles of wine. Once you can take wine bottles easily, you can move on to even bigger things.

If at this point you're having trouble with the 1.5L Coke bottle (just try not to force it out because the bottle is very hard), you can also have slower stretching fun with candles. Try putting them in one by one and seeing how many you can fit in -- at this time I was putting in about fifteen at the same time. The candles are great because they allow your anus to stretch very slowly.

Once the 1.5L Coke bottle can enter your ass, train every day or two (use a large dildo first, then the bottle every session). Most of the time I use Vaseline, but don't do what I do in this case. I think that the best lubricants are the ones you can buy for this in a sex shop.

When the 1.5L bottle is passing easily, go out and buy plastic balls that start at a diameter a little bigger than the bottle. Play with those, and with time, and a little luck, you'll arrive at my level too. (Don't feel bad if you're just beginning -- when I first started, I could barely shove a finger in my ass).

What I'm going to tell you now is very important if you plan on doing extreme sessions and taking large gauge. Do not bandage your ass. Do not tighten your buttocks. Try not to get an erecection -- you want the blood to be in your ass lips, not in your cock. It's not easy, but it's important that you think of nothing and empty your mind. It's absolutely necessary that you concentrate on your breathing. Don't think of the pain; know that it will pass. The real secret though is to breath -- and remember, without the pain, it's IMPOSSIBLE TO TAKE THE BIG ONES!

[bmezine.com]

BME: What does it feel like? Is it sort of like getting fucked by a really well hung guy?

I want to make it very clear that I'm not gay -- I LOVE WOMEN!

BME: I'm sorry -- I imagine people must make this mistake all the time?

All the time, yes. Frankly I'm getting fed up with it.

BME: But you didn't tell me you'd gotten the idea for the bigger play from watching gay porn?

Yes, but the gay aspect never aroused me -- just the ass part. The films only helped show me that men enjoyed anal play as much as the women did.

I just want to find a woman who wants to play fisting with me (to fist me, or to let me fist her). I'm searching for one or two or more women to join me in my play -- I want them to stretch my ass with four hands at the same time while my body is supported. If there are any French women reading this, please write me -- it's my dream to do this performance.

Back to your earlier question, playing with a very large object feels a lot like having to take a shit very urgently. Even though you feel like you need to shit, that's just your imagination, and you can get extreme enjoyment with your ass so full.

BME: Do you like the way your ass looks when it's all purple and blown out?

Not at all, I prefer it when my ass accepts the stretching without any damage.

BME: Have you ever bled from the bigger objects?

[bmezine.com] Maybe eight or ten times I've had blood, but it was mostly because I didn't use enough lubricant.

BME: So... how big do you think you can go?

I'm looking for a bigger ball right now. I want to push my stretching as far as my body can physically support. I go slow though, because I never use drugs or anesthetics of any kind; I prefer feeling all the pleasure and the pain!

BME: What's the difference between pleasure and pain?

When I reach the limits of stretching, the pleasure and pain merge into the same feeling -- the pleasure this brings is amazing! Just two days ago I managed to put in a ball 37cm around (that's almost 15"). The feeling of pushing that out of my ass was indescribably pleasurable. Next time I do that I'm going to be sure to video tape it -- I'm sure I could probably even make money with that one!

BME: What are some of the objects you've stuck up your ass?

I've stuck up two big cucumbers at the same time, 1.5L and 2L Coke bottles, balls of all sizes, every size of wine bottle, lots of big butt plugs, etc.

I had a lot of trouble taking the 2L bottle because it doesn't fit in the ass gently. I can take a bigger ball, but a big rubber ball deforms to fit the shape of the ass -- it doesn't get smaller, but it's an easier fit.

BME: After a session, how long does it take for your ass to go back to normal?

Just five or six hours usually.

BME: Does it hurt afterwards?

No, not at all, but for the next few hours I can feel the ass's big lips.

[bmezine.com] BME: Are there permanent effects?

Yes -- my ass is bigger than ever!!!

BME: Do you need to wear a diaper? Does everything still work?

I'm not a baby!!! Everything is normal for me. All of the "anal destruction" I've done was done by me with care, and my ass is as normal as yours is... Although sometimes when I'm taking a crap it's huge because I've now got the capacity to really stock up. My digestion is trouble free though, and I've had no problems at all.

BME: What sorts of emails do you get from your fans?

Well, I don't know that many people online, but mostly admiration, asking for advice, and I've met a few other ass stretchers who've sent me pictures of their stretching.

BME: If someone wants to starting putting bigger things up their ass, how should they get started?

Take it slow. Start with little toys, and take your time growing your ass.

BME: Have you told any of your friends or sex partners about your ass play?

Oh, no! Up until now it's been TOP SECRET!

The price is freakin' ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005365)

I might pay $600 for this, but not significantly more. On the other hand, these would be good for a compact Beowulf cluster (rimshot).

Swiss-based Company (4, Funny)

Indras (515472) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005366)

Digital-Logic AG, a Swiss company, sells two rather cool BX-based mini PCs...

Both fully equipped with such powerful swiss inventions as a built in nail filer, toothpick, three different sized knives with replacement blades, tweezers, scissors, hair brush, cooking stove, VCR, TV, AM/FM radio, penguin food dispenser...

Homo Geek Orgies REVEALED (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005370)

A photo taken approximately 2 minutes after CmdrTaco completes his performance of GNU/Fellatio on CowBoiKneel. [linux.com] Note the cum in Taco's right eye and the stains on CowBoiKneel's shirt. Hemos's involvement is not all that clear, but I'm sure it was homosexual and involved penises.

Re:Homo Geek Orgies REVEALED (-1)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005475)


"freeze! chiller ray!"

"Yes", said the

Go PowerPC (3, Informative)

gouldtj (21635) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005377)

For that price I'd rather have a BriQ [terrasoftsolutions.com] from the Yellow Dog Linux guys. It runs Linux, has a PowerPC inside.

Doesn't have the firewire though...

Re:Go PowerPC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005942)

According to the images on the web page you're linking to, it also features two whopping fans at the back. No <35 dB rating for this one, I fear (although I wonder if the Microspace PCs are still that quiet when the CD-ROM drive kicks in...)

Why? (-1)

Serial Troller (556155) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005398)

What does this have to do with ANAL COX fucking LINUS TURDBALLS up his ass and posting the MPEGs on the Internet? This is SLOP, I tell you!

The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I (-1, Offtopic)

prizzznecious (551920) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005400)

Guide to the Slashdot Joke ver .1

Greetings, denizens of the Slashdot. If you have read Slashdot commentary with any attention, you have noticed that certain posts receive moderation points with the qualifier "Funny." You may also have noticed, if have experience with non-Linux OS's, that these posts do not make you smile, laugh, urinate, or any of the more popular responses to things that would normally be considered "Funny." Indeed, the Slashdot has birthed a new linguistic classification; I propose to call it the "Slashdot Joke," for reasons that are hopefully quite apparent.

So! You wish to become a Slashdot Joker? Easier typed than done! But let us endeavor no less assiduously in the face of difficulty.

The first thing you must understand in order to be a Slashdot Joker is that the Slashdot Joke does not make you laugh because it was never intended to be funny. That is correct; what's more, no sense of humor is required to craft a Slashdot Joke. The Slashdot Joke is a purely manipulative phenomenon with a specific desired outcome, in most respects quite similar to deftly used GHB. A Slashdot Joke [GHB] compels a Slashdot Moderator [svelte vixen (or otherwise, but let it be svelte, if you please!)] to give you karma [let you stick your dirty penis wherever you please].

The key to proper manipulation is to know the weaknesses of your target. In this case, your target will be Slashdot Moderators. While you can glean a better understanding of this from even minimal observation, I will clue you in to a few basic rules. Slashdot Moderators are all nerds. Some Trolls would have you believe that all Slashdot Moderators use the Linux; this is a common misconception, as most Slashdot Readers (of which Moderators are a subset) use the Microsoft Windows. However, remember my first statement: Slashdot Moderators are all nerds. We all know the Microsoft Windows is easier to use than the Linux; most nerds like to pretend that they are very intimate with their computers (note that some truly are, but that this practice is frowned upon in most circles). In other words, most Slashdot Moderators will support the dominant Slashdot paradigm, which is that the Linux is the greatest, coolest, hippest, free-est, rockingest, insert-your-fetish-here-est OS in the known universe. They take the Linux very seriously. If you do not know much about the Linux, you should go here [aol.com] . That will give you some understanding of the type of people you are working with.

Nerds are very insecure, by definition. If someone is smart and secure (do not take their word for it, though), they will not be a nerd, no matter how much they know about computers, or how much they like Tolkien. Nerdism is insecurity. Therefore, to the novice Slashdot Joker, stroking Slashdot Moderator egos is crucial. Once you have mastered this basic strategy, you can move on to advanced Slashdot Joking (which I will address later), but for now, pace yourself. There are many mod points to be earned from this tried and true method.

Bearing that in mind, let us discuss Slashdot Joking practically. First of all, it is very important to make your joke so quickly as you possibly can. This is because of the following. Real jokes are often absurd and silly; that is why they make us laugh. On the Slashdot, however, Offtopic posts are treated most unkindly. Since a real (funny) joke would almost never be strictly Ontopic in a Slashdot thread (except for the time when CmdrTaco brilliantly stated that he needed a new rubber for his "Jackbot"), this is the most dangerous aspect of Slashdot Joking. Do not allow your sense of humor to ruin your Slashdot Joke! Slashdot Jokes must pertain directly to the topic at hand. For this reason, the most effective Slashdot Jokes will make direct use of the wording of the actual post being discussed (referencing even the linked article is usually too removed--anyway, the Slashdot Moderators almost never read the articles, so they will know no better). Furthermore, Slashdot Jokes should avoid carrying any additional content, as this new content may be actually funny and subsequently Offtopic.

Since adding content is dangerous, the most reliable option available to the would-be Slashdot Joker is the Pun. Most civilized societies long ago made all but the most subtly wrought puns serious social blunders. In truth, this works to your advantage as a Slashdot Joker in multiple ways. For the idiot Slashdot Moderators who look only at the subject of your pun (and scan it for "Microsoft," "RIAA," or other hot Slashdot Topics), the pun is nothing more than a symbol; they take it as a warming confirmation that they belong to a community because they can recognize this pun as part of the Slashdot paradigm. For the even more idiotic Slashdot Moderators who hubristically think that they are above the fray, your pun will be a clever, recursive in-joke. To manipulate these guys, all you have to do is appear to be somewhat intelligent, and they will fabricate the rest in their fecund imaginations. How quaint, they will smugly think, a pun! Do not be afraid to incorporate programming syntax into your pun, even though your real sense of humor may ache at the thought. Many Slashdot Moderators consider programming to be the most breathtakingly sexy thing possible, and so they aspire to project the image that they consider programming syntax so second nature as being capable of conveying humor. Remember, they will not actually be able to find your Slashdot Joke funny, but they will recognize your syntax and mod you up according to the rules of "Funny."

If you have enjoyed reading this and would like this project to continue, please respond saying so! If you did not like it, and think that I am a bag of shit, that input is also welcome. I can take it! Thank you, and peace be on your house!

Re:The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005485)

Way too detailed. Simply put:

-Jokes about NetBSD being ported to an Aibo
-Making fun of the help desk

Re:The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005489)

true, so very very true!

Re:The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I (1)

Crusty Oldman (249835) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005564)

You are three-quarters of the way down the page. Not high enough to be really good.

Re:The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I (0)

prizzznecious (551920) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005587)

I was expecting more than 50 comments in this infernal story. Whatever.

Re:The Aspiring Slashdot Joker Part I (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3006148)

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PC-104 also (3, Informative)

MrResistor (120588) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005403)

Digital-Logic AG makes the most reliable PC-104 video card I've ever used. I never tried to use it for gaming, but it certainly held up to a lot of other abuse :)

Too bad they seem to be /.ed, I'd like to see what else they have.

Re:PC-104 also (1)

stud9920 (236753) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005563)

I never tried to use it for gaming, but it certainly held up to a lot of other abuse :)
You know, wanking to pr0n will not hurt you video card.

Re:PC-104 also (2)

MrResistor (120588) | more than 12 years ago | (#3008287)

Sure it could...

I was using it to test motherboards. I averaged about 4 or 5 a day, 5 or 6 days a week, for 8 months, and I don't even know how many the night shift guy did. Do you have any idea how much pr0n that is? Not to mention that since I was "testing" I had to have easy access to everything, so it was just laying there on the bench next to the monitor fully exposed to whatever might come flying it's way! I don't think it gets much more perilous than that for a video card!!!

Of the 3 that I started with, the Digital-Logic was the only one that survived. It was also the only one that never had any compatability problems (and yes, it works in Linux (SuSE 6.3 and Mandrake 7.0, which were unfortunately not part of the official tests), as do ELO touchscreens, though you have to hunt down the drivers).

So when is the.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005408)

When is the "Cool we got Linux working on this" article?

Official 9-11 Story Impossible (-1)

Commienst (102745) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005413)

Russian Air Force Chief Says
Official 9-11 Story Impossible

[Posted 13 September 2001]

As one considers the terrible events of Sept. 11 and observes U.S. media reaction, so pervasive and consistently military that it appears choreographed, doubts increase. The following is from pravda.ru, a Russian language Website (politically centrist, nationalist). In some places the English translation is confusing, so we added alternate phrasing in brackets.
- Jared Israel

[Start report from Russia] "Generally it is impossible to carry out an act of terror on the scenario which was used in the USA yesterday." This was said by the commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, Anatoli Kornukov. "We had such facts [i.e., events or incidents] too", - said the general straightforwardly. Kornukov did not specify what happened in Russia and when and to what extent it resembled the events in the US. He did not advise what was the end of air terrorists' attempts either.

But the fact the general said that means a lot. As it turns out the way the terrorists acted in America is not unique. The notification and control system for the air transport in Russia does not allow uncontrolled flights and leads to immediate reaction of the anti-missile defense, Kornukov said. "As soon as something like that happens here, I am reported about that right away and in a minute we are all up," - said the general. [End report from Russia.]

Pasted from: The Emperor's New Clothes [tenc.net]

Well.. its slashdotted. (4, Insightful)

Restil (31903) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005414)

But at those prices, I'm unlikely to buy one.

And from looking at the specs provided by the summary, it appears I could build an identical system for 1/4 the price, the only downside being size and perhaps power consumption.

As someone previously posted, for the lack of video options, a laptop would do just as nicely, although there aren't too many laptops with two ethernet adapters (but you could add an extra one via a pcmcia slot).

-Restil

Re:Well.. its slashdotted. (0)

fferreres (525414) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005902)

I could build an identical system for 1/4 the price, the only downside being size and perhaps power consumption.

You'd earn a Guiness record with it. Just think about it: "The biggest and cheapest MiniPC ever"...

Oh, wait...
Get some rest :)

External Power Supplies (2, Interesting)

Bo Vandenberg (247590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005427)

I can see that an external power supply might run cooler outside the case.

I dont remember fans on external power supplies for things like the old Apple //c....

Is there anyone wise in the benefits and costs of external power supplies and whether you can use them for your own projects.

Bo

How is this remotely news and/or interesting? (5, Informative)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005477)

Call me a troll if you want, but this is at least the third or fourth low footprint PC that has been featured on /. in the last couple of months of so.

And, as far as I can see, there is nothing special about this me-too box. It has no unique selling point at all - no low cost, no silent operation, no performance boost (relative to other mini PCs), no nada.

Now if there was something this box could do that other mini PCs couldn't do (especially those that have already been covered by /.), then I could see the point of posting this article. But, as it stands, this product is about as revolutionary as your grandma's apple pie.

Was it a real slow news day? Were there no better stories to submit? (I doubt it, as every other post seems to have at least one comment in which someone moans about the cool story that they submitted being rejected.)

Give us news for nerds. Give us stuff that matters. Don't give us re-runs.

(Sorry but I had to get it off my chest and it had to be said.)

Re:How is this remotely news and/or interesting? (2)

BlowCat (216402) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005601)

Give us news for nerds. Give us stuff that matters. Don't give us re-runs.
That's the difference between slashdot and kuro5hin. I cannot imagine anybody on k5 screaming "give us this and give us that". You just vote for the stories you like and write your stories.

As for the device, it could probably serve as a good host-based 802.11a access point. You don't want to hang a laptop on the wall of your office, do you?

Re:How is this remotely news and/or interesting? (1)

Salami (204605) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005988)

Actually, these boxes run without fans, so they are near-silent. I visited Digital-Logic at the Internet Expo [www.iex.ch] in Zurich, and they look quite cute. And according to the guys there, those Saintsong [saintsong.com.tw] Cappuccino's sound like helicopters compared to these!

And for once, a mini-PC comes not from South-East Asia, but from Switzerland (developed and produced there!) Yay!

Anyway, I want one.

Re:How is this remotely news and/or interesting? (2)

connorbd (151811) | more than 12 years ago | (#3008223)

The question I have: what would be so bloody hard about creating a MiniPC with the cost profile of an iOpener? The parts cost on those things was about $400 IIRC, and I'm sure that it wouldn't be all that hard to put together a P3-class MiniPC that would sell for ~$700 or so profitably.

/Brian

Soekris emBSD board... (1, Interesting)

uberkludge (538196) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005505)

Yeah, it won't play UT, but I'd much rather have this [soekris.com] , especially with some 802.11 luvin and a crypto card [embsd.org] ... uberkludge.

one thing that sucks about living with parents (-1)

peepoh (537606) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005524)

I had a great stiffy when I woke up this morning. I jumped out of bed and was all ready to run to the bathroom and jack off right before my shower. So I threw on some shorts and a shirt and made a bee line for the bathroom. Then my mom intercepted me in the hallway to tell me about how her irises are blooming in the backyard. What a way to kill an erection.

More Hazards of Being a Research Assisstant (-1)

peepoh (537606) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005529)

I.

"Hey, Dr. Bobkowicz. Did you want to talk about that new human-computer interaction experiment now?"
"Actually, yes."
"Hey, why do you have that aluminum bat?"
Blackness. Then sharp pain on my forehead. I awoke to find myself naked and chained to a wall in a room that while it was similarly decorated (plain white walls, no windows, cheap, gray carpet and gray, rubber molding) to the lab, it wasn't a room I recognized. Dr. Bobkowicz returned with another person whose face I couldn't quite recognize. She was carrying a large object in her hands, although my vision was still too blurry to make out what it was.
"Ah, I see you're awake now. Now I would like to talk about that new study. This time, my faithful assisstant, you are the subject."
"I'm the subject? But I didn't sign any consent form for your BDSM fantasy! I -"
"Ah, but I don't need your consent."
"But, the IRB [nih.gov] ! And what are you holding?"
"This? Oh, it's an electric shrub pruner, which brings us to the first phase of the experiment. I'm going to make you into a cyborg... running Windows XP!"
"What?!? Fuck off, you horrible monster! This body bleeds seven colors [slashdot.org] !"
By this point my vision was beginning to come back into focus and I really didn't like how she was brandishing that electric pruner, especially since I could now see all of its shiny, metallic, sharp teeth in perfect detail.
"Yes, and I'm going to make some Windows in you so I can take a peek at all those processes occupying your CPU time! Ha ha! You're supposed to laugh at my little joke, flunky."
At this point, her new assisstant, a large, balding 40's-ish man, erupted in forced laughter.
"That's enough, Steve. Now then, first thing's first. You won't be needing that anymore..."
Zzsst! Just like that, my dick was gone.
"You bitch! I needed that to jack off with!"
"Well, no more. Connect the serial port now!"
"Serial port? But that's obsolete technology!"
"Hmmph! Next you'll be trying to tell me that floppy drives are obsolete, too. Install the serial port, Steve."
"No, no! The IRB will make you pay for this, bitch!"
I couldn't bear to watch, so I blacked out.

not powerful? what are you smoking? (4, Insightful)

Splork (13498) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005549)

since when is a 700Mhz P3 not a powerful system? last i checked it was still running just as fast as that 700Mhz P3 that you were drooling over two years ago.

Re:not powerful? what are you smoking? (1)

Danga (307709) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005612)

Well, for US$1900 I would at least like a 1 GHz P3 (if not more). The price difference between a 700 MHz and 1 GHz is less than $20, which IMO would be worth the slight performance increase. Now maybe they didn't want to go higher for this model b/c of power consumption limitations, but I don't think that could be too much of a problem. I am no engineer however, so maybe it is.

Power supplies for this.... (2)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005561)

Another caveat: The power supply is external, but I didn't see any pictures of it on their website.

The specs are a bit confusing, but it looks like the thing takes 12-24V DC, and there is an optional AC adapter that can supply this (the detailed spec sheets were slashdotted). It's probably cutely packaged in a form factor similar to the PC. Here are the specs:

Input Voltage:12V - 24V DC-Input
Powersupply: 110/220V (60/50Hz)
Powerconsumtion: typ. 40W (700MHz)

For a general idea of what this external power supply could look like, check these power supplies from digikey [digikey.com] ; look for the specs above.

Here's one possible example (the surge/max current may be more, so to really pick the right supply you'd need more data):
FW50 (12 or 24v, 50W) 5"x3"x1.3" $54
EPS169-ND (24v, 50W) 4.1"x2.1"x1.2" $82.80

Think notebook power supply size.

Re:Power supplies for this.... (1)

t (8386) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005693)

That's awesome. I wish all boxes were like this. No more needing to pay gobs of cash for a UPS. Just buy a couple of marine batteries with a charger and you can handle black outs days long.

t.

Space saver (1)

doubtless (267357) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005579)

To really save space, I'd rather spend the money on an LCD. As for this thing, it's small alright, but what if you need to add a hard drive? or an 802.11 card? Sure it has a smart card slot, but I'd rather go with a laptop with CF slots.

I don't see any great future with this thing, especially for the price, and the butt ugly nerdy looking design. If you're a nerd, u won't need a small computer, if u like small PC, u probably are not a nerd.

:P

pricy (1)

xavii (92017) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005624)

the cappuccino is a cool grand on thinkgeek. also, think about the other uses a laptop could have, a fujitsu P series could be hauled around with a full OS on it with a long battery life for a full PC experience rather than all this mini-pc hype.

we need to go away from desktops with monitors into mobile PC's with larger screens at the desks or HUDs. oh a perfect world. we can dream can't we?

xavii aka bob

I can see *my* need for this (1)

teaserX (252970) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005642)

Exspense aside (and the no monitor thing) this thing is cool. It looks like it would fit in my dashboard just fine. Looks like it might come out easy ,too. Use the GPS with a GIS program like Arcview or something and never be lost. Adjust my ECU on the fly in case I run across a punk in Civic who thinks his exhaust tip is bigger than mine. I can log travel info, fuel consumption, weather data, update my weblog while getting a ticket, whatever. Save 5GB for my mp3s. Take it into the house (or friends house) and use it like a briefcase for pr0n/music/anything. You get the idea.

Re:I can see *my* need for this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005659)

you need serious help if you need a pc in your car. that is very homo. YOU are very homo. GOOD day sir.

Lame (2)

Crispin Cowan (20238) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005673)

Well, that's lame. There are several examples of more attractive micro-PCs at more attractive prices. Here's some:
  • EZAV [ezav.com] : smaller form factor, similar power, about $900 configured reasonably. Advantage: has a video port. Disadvantage: only one NIC.
  • American Portwell [portwell.com] : little server appliances. No video, but three NICs, two USBs, and a serial port.
Crispin
----
Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.
Chief Scientist, WireX Communications, Inc. [wirex.com]
Immunix: [immunix.org] Security Hardened Linux Distribution
Available for purchase [wirex.com]

Re:Lame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005684)

THE Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.?

Re:Lame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3006137)

Yeah. He's arrogant to post that all like we're actually going to care that he likes to bloat his title with "Ph.D". I honestly don't give a crap if he has a Ph.D in C.S, because Immunix is horribly designed, inefficient and lacking. Also, if you've seen the page, the man looks like a serial killer.

Hooray for progress! (1)

Cynical_Dude (548704) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005694)

Hooray for progress!

Finally! A PC with the meagre performance of a laptop/notebook, a heftier pricetag and it carries around as well as a small japanese car.

Oh wait ...

Seriously though, I recently had to decide between a notebook and a new PC. After giving it some serious thought, I came to the conclusion that I need to be able to move my machine easily from one place to the next every few weeks, but I do not need to use it while in transit between those places...

You'd be surprised to how many people this applies that think they need a notebook.

I opted for a 1Ghz Duron in the smallest quality case I could find, mx2-400, 256Megs of RAM, 100Gig WD drive, a combined DVD-Read/CD-Burner plus assorted other goodies including foremost a very good 15" TFT screen (for easier transportation than a CRT) and paid a mere $1k.

A notebook with the same specs would have set me back pretty much by $2k.

No contest there...

In all fairness, there are some downsides:
For one, I opted for a powerful but not very silent CPU cooler, since I don't trust to AMD CPUs playing nice in small cases. Also, I've sacrificed a bit of performance by chosing the ECS K7S5A mobo, but I couldn't resist on-board network and audio for $75.

I'm all for building smaller PCs, but not if I could build a pyramid of notebooks for the same money...

No Systems For Power Users (1)

Jason_Knx (244168) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005697)

What is the definition of a power user these days. Yea, the chips and systems have steadily increased in power but they've outpaced the software and OS's available.

What does one have to be doing then to be a power user?

I have a 600mh Duron computer that I primarily use and I usually have no less then 4-5 programs running at a time.

I thought a power user was someone who used a computer extensively and to it's fullest. Since when is it measured by the power of there processor?

Okay this is the 64th post (0)

Ralph Malph Alpha (551824) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005709)

Now I and everybody else are sick and tired of this dsumsa story. Letz all move on shall we.

BX bahh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3005786)

Its sooooo 1997.

If you're gonna do Pentium3/Celeron.. 815EP or 830MP is the way to go.

Howcome we havent got lounge room PC's yet (1)

heideggier (548677) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005814)

I look at this article and feel slightly dismayed, The reason for this is because I really would like to have a small/quite PC or my lounge room to plug into my TV set and clearly we are there with the technology of the hardware.

This seem's be the only practical application for this, rather then a small server to take to lan parties, from reading the what's the point thread anyway, (fav quote, "It's so kewl I wish I could think of something to do with it""

However, nobody seems that interested in making one, which is funny since the only thing you would need to do is create a new GUI like that used on DVD's like Nox, For example.(not something lame like Interactive TV or WebTV). Esp considering the millions that have been wasted on things like Webpads or WAP.

It's like there is a truck load of money sitting on the curb and all someone has to do is drive it off.

I think that there would be a demand for this type of thing based on the number of people who brought the XBOX thinking that they could turn it into a 3vix/Mp3 Player, open Tivo, or MAME terminal (The thing seem's to be proving a right bastard to hack).

The only thing on the horizon is M$ vapourious Homestation, and some project's like the Nokia's media terminal.

Could someone please try to market a alternative before the end of the year, based on linux. with a simple DVD interface and NIC for my LAN, just so I don't have to buy a Homestation, (Sony might with the PS2 or PS3).

Re:Howcome we havent got lounge room PC's yet (1)

frozenray (308282) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006191)

I look at this article and feel slightly dismayed, The reason for this is because I really would like to have a small/quite PC or my lounge room to plug into my TV set and clearly we are there with the technology of the hardware.

If you have cash to spare, some skill with power tools, lots of spare time and a German-English dictionary, the German c't magazine may have what you're looking for:

The c't S.V.P. is a multifunctional "everything-but-the-kitchen-sink" living-room device which can record and play music in nearly any format known to geekdom, is a digital video recorder, plays DVDs and VCDs, has network connectivity, supports a plethora of IR remotes and whatnot. Geek heaven!

The original article appeared in c't magazine 20/2001, p. 146. Here's the link to a shorter online version (in German, and unfortunately they left out the images). Use WorldLingo [worldlingo.com] to translate into English (although poor Christof Windeck will probably cringe at seeing his last name machine-translated to "Christof wind-hit a corner" :)

Raymond

The link to the S.V.P. article (1)

frozenray (308282) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006212)

... is here [heise.de] , sorry.

Raymond

Re:Howcome we havent got lounge room PC's yet (1)

heideggier (548677) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006522)

Trust the Germans to be there before the rest of us (bastards). I think that things like this will be hugh, I just hope we don't end up with something like M$/Aol Tv, that would really, really sux.

If you want a cube, aluminium case.. (2, Informative)

zome (546331) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005855)

Try this one [soldam.com]
It's not very small, but does look good. Especially that black case, which should go very well with your new black flat panel :-)
And for those who remember Shuttle SV24 [slashdot.org] , it uses the same MB, Shuttle FV24.

Re:If you want a cube, aluminium case.. (1)

DBman (467320) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006490)

Check for linux compatabilty first!

Shuttle released a SVGA driver for their crappy Savage4 onboard video, they even give you a nice little utility called s3switch or something to control the TV out THAT DOESN'T DO A FSCKING THING!

The best I could do was 256 colors @ 640x480, and I only got that once. After restarting the server it just bombed over and over again.

Video in Win2K isn't bad, but the TV out doesn't work either! I'd like to be able to watch my new Robotech DVDs on da big screen (bigger than 15", andyway) but I can't because Shuttle can't ship drivers that work.

Before I'm modded down for being off-topic...

My point is that some manufacturers cut serious corners when it comes to ultra-small form factor PCs. Unless it's being done by a company w/ enough experience building laptops to be able to miniaturize and consolidate all that crap into a really small form-factor, don't trust their products to support linux (even if they claim it does) until you see it for yourself, cuz if something sounds too good to be true...

Why another Mini-PC made in Switzerland (1)

anderesa (445239) | more than 12 years ago | (#3005945)

Actually, NZZ [www.nzz.ch] the Swiss newspaper equivalent of TWJ in the U.S. covered the story [archiv.nzz.ch] five days ago. Unfortunately by nature, the story is in German, but is very worthwile reading since it gives some information about why a small (120 people), rather unknown Swiss company wants to enter the Mini-PC market.
  • The company is small, but has been around for 10 years selling embedded PC's (compact PC modules) used to build ATM, electronic ticketing machines. (Actually, I live about 10 miles away, but have never heard of them.)
  • Primary markets are Germany and Switzerland.
  • Swisscom, the dominant Swiss telecom, as an example, uses such embedded PC for their electronic phonebooks in public phone cells, etc.
  • They don't want to compete with low-end Mini-PC, but see their Microspace-PC as a high-end products, designed and built from scratch in Switzerland. Yes, Made in Switzerland still holds as a unique selling proposition (USP in MBA slang).
  • They only want to sell 5000 units in the first year, so they don't want to be a big player.
  • The option to have an embedded smartcard reader is actually something which might distinguish the product from other Mini-PC. Note that especially in Switzerland, almost all people carry an EC-card with them. An EC-card is not a smartcard, but has a little chip that functions like a purse. You can load it via an ATM, and use it to pay withouth cash. The second, and traditional use of the EC-card is to allow cashless payment. The difference to a credit card, is that your bank account is charged on the same day, and no credit card company takes 5% commission.
  • My guess is, that Digital-Logic will base their marketing efforts on this option to attach a smartcard reader, and sell it to small and medium sizes business. The NZZ article mentions the example of a hotel that offers Internet access whereby the customers can instantly pay via the cash-card.

and the clones come marching in (2)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006123)

My local Crack/d/d/d/d/d/d computer dealer just recieved a "cappuchino" look-alike recently. $395.00 for the unit without processor,HDD,ram,or cd drive. (cince it uses a special laptop Cd drive a 24X cdrom drive costs $199.00 and it get's worse from there.)

Basically you can buy a working unit at the max 256meg ram and a 20gig hdd,cd,1ghz PIII for about $899 now you need a monitor (if you buy a 21 inch crt for this I believe goons will come and beat you from behind the counter) so add a cheap 15" LCD - $399.00 and keybd+mouse. I can get a laptop for the same or lower price, not have the 256Meg max ram limit and can use it places other than my home AND get a decent video chipset. (Compaq EVO's are coming with radeon chipsets with 32 meg video ram)

Until they slash the prices of these tiny pc's in half or do a redesign to make them slightly larger but use normal parts. (if the cappuchino computer was the same size as a cdrom drive but twice as high, It could use a regular drive, normal ram and probably use a P-4.)

These computers are obviously gimmick devices for rich prissy snob women that cant stand the sight of a normal computer, or artsey freaks that can't allow the compter to clash with his all glass desk and imported German leather chair.. " I am gunther, this is the part in sprokets where we dance!".

ARP-Datacon (1)

fuzzybunny (112938) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006128)



Don't be discouraged by their prices.


ARP-Datacon has a reputation here (Switzerland) for massively overchanging for everything (up to 1000% overprice for things like serial adapters)
so it's not really reflective of what they're worth.

Where to buy CHEAP mini PCs? (2)

Shiny Metal S. (544229) | more than 12 years ago | (#3006129)

I need machines for X terminals.

TCSX-1 [disklessworkstations.com] is the cheapest what I've found, but still $400 for 66MHz x86 with 16MB RAM is just too much. For that money I can buy a terminal server for them.

On the other hand, few weeks ago I bought an old Fujitsu ErgoPro X PC with Pentium 133MHz, 32MB RAM, PS/2 keyboard & mouse ports, 2MB SVGA, floppy drive and 100Mb/s network adapter, all for $25. It's a great machine, but I need something smaller.

Do you know where to find something smaller than that Fujitsu (a compact horizontal desktop case) but cheaper than that TCSX-1? Maybe building it from parts is the way to go?

Re:Where to buy CHEAP mini PCs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3006325)

http://www.thinknic.com/

$199.

Re:Where to buy CHEAP mini PCs? (1)

BadlandZ (1725) | more than 12 years ago | (#3007757)

Damn... That should be modded WAY up IMHO, linux based, run off CD, cheap, THAT is a cool little thing.... I'm tempted to try to get/modify the CD they use to play with... But I'm even more tempted to order one!

Re:Where to buy CHEAP mini PCs? (1)

BadlandZ (1725) | more than 12 years ago | (#3007208)

IMHO, someone needs to build a little box like this for about $400-$500 with Gigibit over copper (like linksys eg1064 or something) and decent video (like 32M 4xAGP VooDoo or something)....

Until that happens, there's no reason I see for not just building a box from parts myself...

Hella cheaper alternative (slightly larger) (1)

Simulant (528590) | more than 12 years ago | (#3007939)

MicroCenter was selling these http://www.deltanetworks.com.tw/products/SYSTEM/sy stem_barebone_detail.htm for $99.00 about a month ago. Can't beat it. I suspect they were mispriced. The Santa Clara store sold out in a day or two. It's about the same size as the SpaceWalker ($250 at Fry's) but not so cubic. It makes an awesome MP3/DIVX/MAME machine. Fits right in my stereo cabinet (ok, closet). My only complaint is that it could be a little quieter but that's mainly due the the hard drive I installed.

PC104 + embedded Linux = save money (1)

SloppyElvis (450156) | more than 12 years ago | (#3007970)

For those wanting a cheaper solution for their tiny computer needs, search google for PC104. The options are numerous, and one could construct such a device as this post indicates for less coin. Of course, such a project wouldn't be as easy, but hey, this is slashdot, not MSN. Besides, you'd learn volumes about embedded systems.

Perspective (1)

X-Nc (34250) | more than 12 years ago | (#3008112)

The downside: Those are definitely no[sic] systems for power users (current processors are 700 MHz Celeron and 700 MHz P3,

I don't know about anyone else but I can run a very nice web/file/print/mail server on a P-III 700MHz. A 700 MHz Celeron makes a good desktop. Are we getting so power hungry that we need to have frelling monster servers just do read mail?

Microspace PC's (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#3008323)

Imagine a Beowolf Cluster of THESE!!!
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