BusinessWeek on Wi-Fi 110
ydeepakjois writes "BusinessWeek is running a series of articles on the potential of wireless high-speed access, the Wi-Fi industry and the challenges faced by it. There is also an interesting bit about a business model for wireless carriers."
This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:5, Interesting)
Being ahead of the curve has always been good for Apple users - sometimes you find that the industry sort of settles around what you've been doing/using for years
I feel like a Boy Scout w/ my Mac - always prepared. And not in the hot entree type of prepared - I mean the "ready for anything" type of prepared.
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:3, Informative)
Anyways for what it's worth, a LOT of conferences nowadays set up wireless access and it is very popular. Just walk around at lunchtime and you'll see many people checking email (or just surfing the web or whatever). As for videoconferencing, that's not even popular over wired connections.
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:5, Insightful)
I personally don't see anyway for battery life to improve unless people are willing to compromise on performance and whizbang features. Battery capacity itself is as perfected as it's going to get...the key is to cut down consumption. But everytime someone figures out how to cut consumption on one component, the laptop mfrs stuff more features in rather than focusing on a laptop that has the longest possible battery life.
Unfortunately, too many people will buy laptop "X" with 17" display, DVD+R+RW/CD/R/RW combo superdrive, ultrawhizzy 300 GB hard drive, with the latest and greatest ultrawhizzy superfast processor and 1.5 hours of battery life rather than laptop "Y" which only has a 13.1" or 14" display, a relatively slow-clocked processor, with a somewhat slow, but powersaving hard drive, no removable storage and 7 hours of battery life.
That's because they've bought into the marketing hype and have forgotten that the number 1 advantage of a laptop is to be able to work anywhere, anytime. Laptops don't NEED to be desktop replacements, they should be thought of as desktop complements, rather than replacements.
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:2, Insightful)
Nonsense. While a laptop doesn't NEED to be a desktop replacement, if its a "desktop companion" it radically changes the function. If I chose a desktop companion laptop, it would be and "ultraportable", the biggest I'd consider would
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:2)
That's not the fault of the laptop...that's the fault of having no centralized document management system. With wireless internet connectivity, you could maintain all of your documents on a server s
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:1)
That's not the fault of the laptop...that's the fault of having no centralized document management system. With wireless internet connectivity, you could maintain all of your documents on a server
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:2)
That's where fuel cells will come into play. A fuel cell will give your laptop enough power to run all of the wizbang stuff that many people want, as long as they want.
Wireless will be essential in the future for any laptop. With wireless, one will be able to go online and check e-mail, surf, etc. almost anywhere. Security will get better with new 802.11 standards -- default 802.11b is very poor, even with 128 bit WEP. There are more wireless hubs out there every month -- my Orinoco card and net stumb
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:2)
Don't forget *weight*. Remember, you've gotta carry this thing around all day... fuel cells are heavy in case you hadn't noticed. And they can explode too. I don't want my laptop to be considered munitions.
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:1)
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:2)
Invest in very small (3 pound) laptops, that get 5 hours per battery, and a few hotspares(less than a pound each), and you are good for a day, easy.
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:2)
Newsflash: Battery isnt important to some people (Score:2)
Now, since #2 and #3 are the "sweet spot" (due to business usage), and #1 can be fulfilled by a #2 class laptop
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:1)
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:2)
With OS X the move the Mac's has been painless. The family loves theirs and those at work are always ready too.
I've never had the need, want or desire to play with PPPoE until a recent broadband install forced me to. The router they supplied required Windows to setup/install which VirtualPC took care of -- and showed me I didn't want their router after all.
I have
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:2)
Cable in this area (heavily populated now) is not available.
I had DSL with Ameritech, er SBC, um, SBC/Yahoo! which was originally 768K. Either it was down, had poor latency, or would just drop 80% of the packets on a WEEKLY basis and last for hours to days on end. I put up with this for YEARS now and finally cut them
Re:This is going to be a joyous thing (Score:2)
And as for Apple being ahead of the curve, the problem with that is that if they shipped wireless products before mid-1999, those products might not be compatible with existing networks. This is because 802.11b was ratified by the IEEE in mid 1999, and Wi-Fi
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What about the Security (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What about the Security (Score:3, Insightful)
'nuff said.
Re:What about the Security (Score:3, Insightful)
Treat a WiFi adapter just like a connection to the Internet, and you can't go far wrong.
Re:What about the Security (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:What about the Security (Score:2)
I don't enable WEP encryption because I find that it cuts down bandwidth by 30-40%. Does that mean I'm a
Re:What about the Security (Score:3, Interesting)
You can secure the transactions by running through SSH or setting up a vpn tunnel...there's some overhead, but I'd guess your computers could encrypt faster than the hardware in your 802.11 setup.
Re:What about the Security - Toast (Score:1)
Re:What about the Security (Score:3, Insightful)
Also see: E-week (Score:3, Informative)
Easy: VPN (Score:5, Informative)
I suspect that in the end, that will be the way to go regardless of new advancements in WEP that may or may not come about.
The bottom line is that somewhere, the day will have to be encrypted in some way because it is open in the air for anyone to grab. If you put the burden of the horsepower required to encrypt/decrypt on your WAP, then your ability to serve large numbers of clients diminishes.
In other words, leave the WAP duties up to the WAP and leave the encryption duties up to a VPN server. No changes to current technologies required.
Re:Easy: VPN (Score:2)
As opposed to VPN traffic going over the internet that could just as easily be sniffed and recorded and potentially cracked (with the help of a supercomputer)?
Re:Easy: VPN (Score:2)
Re:What about the Security (Score:1)
They won't look into making WiFi a "permitted" standard, but they will buy the equipment to do security sweeps to make sure no one has set up a rogue WiFi access point.
Re:What about the Security - There are answers (Score:3, Informative)
WEP = worthless equivalent privacy (Score:3, Insightful)
#2: Not a bad idea. I assume you mean authenticate via RADIUS to get access to the WAP and then VPN to access the other side.
#3: Absolutely. This is the ONLY way currently to guarantee security of data.
#4 I disagree with completely.
WEP is clearly and easily breakable. It can be a pain to keep up with WEP keys.
At best it keeps complete beginners from viewing data p
Re:WEP = worthless equivalent privacy ;-) (Score:2)
Re:What about the Security (Score:2)
If you are securing against unauthized users you clamp down at the DHCP server. If your are securing against unauthorized people leaching your connection, you secure at the NAT gateway. If you are securing from unauthorize people externally, you do it at the firewall.
All of this is network level stuff. It doesn't matter if they are getting in through a hard-line, a wifi connection, or a some well trained rats and a fiber splice.
this is a nice idea... (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:this is a nice idea... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:this is a nice idea... (Score:1, Informative)
Re:this is a nice idea... (Score:1)
Frequency limitations are to blame (Score:3, Informative)
The way to get around the problem of obstruction of signal, multiple repeater sites are necessary. There is a cost associated that makes it hard to justify if there isn't significant population density to cover an area.
As far as upping speed to 54 mbps in the 2.4 ghz range, 802.11g will make that a
Re:this is a nice idea... (Score:2)
Just make sure that's a neighbor on the top of a hill.
What about free-as-in-beer (Score:3, Insightful)
Who care about what Business Week says? It's about as interesting as 3G phones from their end - ie not at all interesting, just another way to part us from our money. Yes, let's all buy wireless cards, but learn the lesson of P2P and make them available to all.
Wow (Score:3, Informative)
business travelers... (Score:5, Insightful)
This is NOT a good business model people. I do NOT want to have to goto the local airport or downtown coffee shop (not my type of place) in order to get connected while I am out of my house.
I want connections EVERYWHERE and ANYWHERE. I want to goto the local bar, sit down w/my NTN Playmaker, my Budweiser, and my 12 Wild Wings, watching Football, and hop on the net to surf, AIM, ssh, etc.
I am NOT a business traveler. I will probably never be one.
Good business models include a LARGE cross-section.
Re:business travelers... (Score:2, Insightful)
If you meant to imply that all good business models include a large cross section, you're absolutely wrong. That mentality fostered the .com business models of "building brand recognition" that ultimately went nowhere. There are many spectacularly successful business models that are very narrowly targeted, but do very well at saturating their target market (think Mercedes-Benz).
Re:business travelers... (Score:1)
Re:business travelers... (Score:2)
Re:business travelers... (Score:2)
If you want all that and a bag of chips, just buy yourself one of those wiresless web phones and plug it into your laptop. Sprint sells them, Verizon sells them. The service isn't all that expensive. It is a bit slow, but not all that expensive.
Re:business travelers... (Score:1)
As for wifi becoming hygenic, I attended CEBIT recently and the NOs will be bringing wifi as a business solution, I dont think they have grasped the concept of ubiquity yet...
They also see embracing Wifi as a way of protecting their revenue as wifi threatens 3G revenue and of course profi
Re:business travelers... (Score:2)
Re:business travelers... (Score:2)
Re:business travelers... (Score:3, Funny)
Why is this so hard to understand? (Score:5, Insightful)
There is no business model for wireless, that's why it's so great!
It's 100% commodity based. Companies build commodity products, and the consumer purchases them to become part of the ISP. Mesh routers, 802X nodes, etc are all self-sufficient "black boxes" purchased by users for users.
The last thing we need is another middle-man sending us a bill for something that's free!
Re:Why is this so hard to understand? (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, but if there is a business model that includes profit there will be a lot more wireless sites to use (if you are willing to pay), and it shouldn't have a big impact on the number of free ones.
Having a model where some folks "give it away" is great, the lack of a for-profit model isn't great.
Re:Why is this so hard to understand? (Score:3, Insightful)
How do you figure that my T1/T3/etc is free? What about the $500-800 bucks for a quality WAP/Router that dies and has to be replaced?
Look, I am all for free services. But the bottom line is that somewhere in the chain someone has to pay. Are you suggesting mass mooching?
The only way this would be a truly free endeavor is if the idea of a structured network went out the door and everything was trul
Interference (Score:3, Interesting)
Interference and crowding may prove to become too much of an issue as everyone hops on the bandwagon.
This being said, WiFi is a great technology to pave the way in wireless.
Re:Interference (Score:1)
I think you'll find WiFi slowly fazed in after different proprietary technologies failed to catch on.
Consumers were appropriately unwilling to be locked into a particular vendor, and eventually these vendors decided to come up with a standard protocol that would make all of their equipment compatible.
As I recall, there were even incompatibilities among early 802.11 implementations, leading to the creation of the "WiFi" label, which guarantees interoperability with other "WiFi" products from any manufactur
Re:Interference (Score:1)
And the routers.... (Score:2, Funny)
Fortune had an article in print... (Score:3)
I really wish people would stop using this "roughly equivalent" analogy. What type of digital music are we talking? It doesn't answer anything really. If we're talking about a
This is off-topic, just something I read and wanted to bitch about.
Re:Fortune had an article in print... (Score:2, Funny)
At that speed, it would take you 50 years to build a highway from the Library of Congress to the Grand Canyon and fill it with enough encyclopedias to fill an Olympic-sized swimming pool.
Profitable (Score:2)
A: Sprint PCS became operating-positive last year, and we expect to be free-cash-flow-positive in 2003 and net-income-profitable next year.
Can anyone explain what the difference is between these three things? And, does any of them actually mean "profitable"? I can't tell.
Re:Profitable (Score:2)
You become net income profitable when your recognized income is higher than your recognized costs.
The difference between the two could be due to timing of income and cost recognitions.
Or their definition of "cash-flow positive" might be "operating cash-flow positive" which does not include capital spending.
Re:Profitable (Score:3, Informative)
Wi-Fi.. great for what it is (Score:5, Insightful)
The fact is, 3G wireless networks are going to win out in the long run. Being able to open your laptop in the coffee shop and surf the web is great, but the bigger "wireless" market is vehicular embedded communications devices, fully connected PDAs, email-on-the-go, web browsing from where-ever you want. And no, futzing with my fucking cellphone keypad to send a stupid SMS message just doesn't count, I want it all on my Palm Pilot/Windows CE device, I want it seemless, I want it universal, I want it affordable.
Re:Wi-Fi.. great for what it is (Score:2)
That said, wherever people sit and congregate with laptops they will want internet access. Wifi can provide it. The trick is to be able to make it worth someone's while to put in the wireless.
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Re:Wi-Fi.. great for what it is (Score:4, Insightful)
Bluetooth has alot of the answers. It enables PDAs, handhelds, laptops, etc to have internet connectivity on the road via Bluetooth -> mobile phone connections. Using a Bluetooth WAP, you can get the connectivity at the office or home.
In a class 2( 10meter ) configuration, you'll typically get 4x longer runtime than WiFi. Security becomes less of a problem because it's security-by-proximity( you can see who's trying to break in ). Heck, you want a secure meeting with wireless connectivity? Put a Class 3( 1-3meter) WAP in the middle of the meeting table.
IMHO, WiFi should be the secondary wireless system and Bluetooth the primary one.
LoB
Re:Wi-Fi.. great for what it is (Score:3, Interesting)
Economist (Score:3, Informative)
yummy. (Score:1)
What does this mean for the future of telephone companies? When can I call from Boston to london at less than $1.50 per min?
Re:yummy. (Score:1)
Re:yummy. (Score:2)
Go ahead and use WiFi on your handheld at Starbucks before your next meeting. Any more than 30 minutes of use and you had better hope you don't need your handheld for much of the meeting. Or it's a short meeting. I guess you could bring your battery charger with you to the meeting.
Makes a good demo but implementation/use is not there.
LoB
Personal Telco Wireless Project in Portland, OR (Score:4, Interesting)
internet in parts of Portland, Oregon.
I also know that there are similar efforts going
on in other cities.
I also did not notice (it could be there as I only
skimmed the articles) anything about the war-chalking that goes on in some areas to identify places where one can get a wireless session.
Mark
Re:Personal Telco Wireless Project in Portland, OR (Score:1)
What?? (Score:1)
"Former Napster aficionados are wirelessly linking their PCs to their stereos to better enjoy their MP3 collections."
And how are they doing just that? Is there some kind of WiFi gear I can plug in my Amp's audio input? ... fooling it that it's receiving a signal from a CD/radio/tape or something?
Abbreviaton? Acronym? (Score:2)
Could someone tell me what exactly does "Wi-Fi" stand for?
Re:Abbreviaton? Acronym? (Score:2, Informative)
More info + propaganda available at:
See http://www.weca.net/OpenSection/why_Wi-Fi.asp?TID
Rushfan
the path to wi-fi bliss (Score:1)
f#^$%ing sprint liars and cheats!! (Score:2)
that's sprint's way of saying that they would much rather keep you locked into your phone number with them, which i have seen keep people around even when they hate spr
Question (Score:2)
Just curious...
another link (Score:1)