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Homeless to be Implanted with Subdermal RFID Tags 511

An anonymous reader writes "Politech has the scoop on the Bush administration's plans to forcibly implant RFID tags into homeless people in participating U.S. cities. Here's an excerpt from the UPI article: "The miniscule RFID tags are no larger than a matchstick and will be implanted subdermally, meaning under the skin. Data from RFID tracking stations mounted on telephone poles will be transmitted to police and social service workers, who will use custom Windows NT software to track movements of the homeless in real time... A second phase of the project, scheduled to be completed in early 2005, will wirelessly transmit live information on the locations of homeless people to handheld computers running the Windows CE operating system.""
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Homeless to be Implanted with Subdermal RFID Tags

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  • by OtakuHawk ( 682073 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:06PM (#8742200)
    No one Cares about the Homeless! /sarcasm)
  • Cool.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Adam9 ( 93947 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:06PM (#8742204) Journal
    So now we can use geocaching to find homeless people? Awesome!
  • When will they force the REST of us who AREN'T homeless to be tracked like our dogs? -Phyrebyrd
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:06PM (#8742209)
    This is the most retarded April Fool's day yet. If you can't come up with your own stuff, at least link to people that do. Lucky for Slashdot that Paypal doesn't let you donate a kick in the ass.
    • Lucky for Slashdot that Paypal doesn't let you donate a kick in the ass.

      Hey, that sounds like a good idea for an April Fools joke! I think I'll write it up so Slashdot can post it next year.
    • That sounds like a great idea.

      Why don't you patent it? :)

    • Word. If it wasn't for me not being neither black nor gay I'd join the GNAA right away. At least the GNAA trolling is funnier.

      And I bet the smell of burning karma is funnier that the string of crap that masquerades as April's fools jokes on /.

    • Re:What the #$%#? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by cybermace5 ( 446439 ) <g.ryan@macetech.com> on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:54PM (#8742605) Homepage Journal
      You have been completely taken in by Slashdot's April Fool's prank 2004. Remember last time how the actual prank was not the article itself, but the fact that it was reposted over and over? Well, the prank this time is lots of really lame April Fool's articles. Everyone who gets mad and yells about how "it's not funny" is merely too stupid to get the joke.
    • by spen ( 26179 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @08:29PM (#8742863)
      This is sure to get a reaction with the slashdot crowd though, I mean what are they thinking, this is horrible - Windows!? They should be using Linux!!!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:06PM (#8742212)
    That is how I read it.
  • by canwaf ( 240401 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:06PM (#8742213) Homepage Journal
    How does CTRL-ALT-DEL work on windows CE?
  • argh (Score:5, Funny)

    by kertong ( 179136 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:07PM (#8742214) Homepage
    with all these april fool's postings, I don't know what to believe anymore!

    (huddles in corner wearing tinfoil hat whilst sucking on thumb)
    • by macshune ( 628296 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:21PM (#8742371) Journal
      Although the story is an exaggeration of the actual program, which does not use RFID, there is a real program called Homeless Management Information Systems (HMIS) being developed by the Department of Housing and Development. From my cursory glance, it seems as though it's a program to collect data on homeless in the name of cutting down crime and assisting them, rather than full-on movement tracking (think of the infrastructure costs!). Anyhow, EPIC [epic.org] discusses it here [epic.org]
      • by paxmark1 ( 636441 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:30AM (#8744161)
        Was posted on previously - /. August 19th. Me, I know it is a April fools joke. However, I lived with the homeless for 6 years. Many of the people I lived long term with were either Korean War vets or Vietnam War vets. I found that easier than doing the family side end of it. You never get it out of your head the eyes of some of the homeless kids. It has been 13 years since I lived with the homeless. Best thing I ever did was sell my homeless shelter (Rufus Jones House) to Catholic Social Services for $5. St. Joseph's house has been full ever since of homeless families. And so it is an April Fools' joke. It will be no joke if trends in Yank politics continue, signing off, one US citizen working on landed residency in Canada.
  • by zangdesign ( 462534 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:07PM (#8742219) Journal
    Yeah, Bush is evil, but I really doubt he's that evil.

    This sounds like someone's idea of a very bad joke.
    • The man who has brought us unending war (and got cheered for it!), has pushed through $250 billion boondoggle of a unnecessary embroilment in Iraq, wants to amend the Constitution to ban gays from some normal rights forever, gave a huge tax break to all his buds while driving the deficit out of sight, wants to name American citizens enemy combatants without trial or counsel is not capable of tagging the homeless? Exactly what would he have to do that *would* convince you he is capable of this and much wor
  • by Bingo Foo ( 179380 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:08PM (#8742223)
    You can defeat this plot by putting the homeless person in a microwave [slashdot.org].
  • Sure. (Score:5, Funny)

    by AstrumPreliator ( 708436 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:08PM (#8742229)
    who will use custom Windows NT software

    That's a joke all in itself.
    • I love the idea that they're trying to distance themselves from the normal, off-the-shelf homeless tracking software.

      Yes, I know it's April first.
  • by sleeeper ( 210375 ) * <slashdot AT bigelow-springs.net> on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:08PM (#8742232) Homepage
    As someone who manages state homeless grant programs, I have to salute this as very clever. The federal government (HUD/HHS) is acutally pushing these types of tracking systems, albeit in the form of the somewhat less invasive new requirment for Homeless Management Information Systems (HMIS) [hud.gov].

    I am invloved in an effort to produce an open source HMIS, so that if we are required to have tracking systems, at least they will be inexpensive and under the control of non-commercial entities. You can see a demo of the open HMIS at: homeless-mis.net [homeless-mis.net] It uses PHP and Postgres (or MS-SQL if you like that sort of thing....)

    The idea of integrated information systems actually started with homeless advocates that wanted to improve services through coordinated service delivery. But, like any tool, HMISs can be mis-used, and sometimes you wonder what motiviates these federal requirements.

    • I have to salute this as very clever.

      I sincerely hope you are kidding. Forcibly implanting ID tags in people is the stuff of science fiction, and that's exactly what it should be: fiction.
      Anything else is a direct violation of basic human rights. There is no good reason for it, and if in place it will be abused.

      • by sleeeper ( 210375 ) * <slashdot AT bigelow-springs.net> on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:36PM (#8742487) Homepage
        "Clever" as in "takes a real issue, and pushes it one step further into an uncomfortable area."

        This was obviously written by someone who works with homeless programs. PATH is a real program, funded under the McKinney grant, and they are actually deploying Palms to collect data on mentally ill homeless persons.

        On any other day, I would actually have believed this for half a second. Clearly, there are big privacy issues with collecting any sort of information on people. The current requirements make me any many others very uncomfortable. The federal government has actually received quite a bit of push back over this issue, and the final rule has been delayed for more than a year as a result of the privacy concerns.

        Thankfully, it look like HUD will be making significant concessions to address community concerns, that will result in a final requirement that better protects client privacy.

    • "Some time after six the gates opened and we began to file in one at a time. In the yard was an office where an official entered in a ledger our names and trades and ages, also the places we were coming from and going to --this last is intended to keep a check on the movements of tramps. I gave my trade as 'painter'; I had painted water-colours--who has not? The official also asked us whether we had any money, and every man said no. It is against the law to enter the spike with more than eightpence, and any
    • Perhaps we should just try to spend the money on getting homes for the homeless?
  • by dumbnose ( 190140 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:08PM (#8742233)
    You had me up 'til then.
  • I also heard that "Drone UAVs will be used to provide live video if necessary of any and all actions of said individuals."

    I also heard these people are first in line for new jobs with the TSA

  • Bush should be implanted a RFID tag himself.
    A telephone pole sized one.
    Anally.
  • Man, the april first articles are going from bad to worse!

    What's next, Research showing Sco kill Mother Teresa?

    Plese let it stop!
  • I don't think so. Give it a rest. These were lame when it was April 1st, by mid-morning on the 2nd they are really sad.
  • Act now before it's April 2!

    Relax folks, the workday is ending here in the CST and I don't need more articles to pass the time, tomorrow will be back to normal, no harm, no foul. Hell, I've even read more /. today than I usually do.

    I like knowing that the crew here knows how to take a day off, unlike many of the rest of us.

  • For a moment I thought this was real.
  • Honestly now... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Bagels ( 676159 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:12PM (#8742271)
    I sat through all of the crap that's been posted today due to AF, but this is just plain not in good taste. Invasion of privacy by RFID is safe to poach on - maybe one along the lines of Dilbert (PHBs using RFID to track workers) - but the subject of homelessness just plain isn't funny. Reminds me a bit of the TV show that paid homless folks to fight each other...
  • by TrentL ( 761772 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:12PM (#8742276) Homepage
    Why spend the money when it's cheaper to just ignore them like we do now?
  • So now... (Score:2, Redundant)

    by bad_fx ( 493443 )
    Homeless people will explode in the microwave [slashdot.org] too?
  • It'll now be much more easier to find candidates for the next Bumfights [bumfights.com] vid.
  • Now, they forget to mention stage three... sponsored by Microsoft!

    Stage three uses the rest of the matchstick probe (RFIDs are really tiny) to upload a custom version of Windows XP to all infected hosts.

    Bill Gates, CSA of Microsoft, is quoted as saying, "This will create thousands of pay wireless internet terminals in major metro areas and simultaneously helping thousands of unfortunate souls. I am God."

    Yet to be seen, however, is the effect of crashes, such as STOP errors, which has caused heart attacks
  • How long do you think the Slashdot editors spend thinking up these stories? Or do they accept submissions?
  • Wow! That's a wonderful idea! Finally, we have some high-tech, expensive thing to do with all that extra money we have lying around that we vowed never to give to the homeless that they might feed and/or clothe themselves.
  • Don't the rules of April 1 ediquette require that the jokes be played in the morning only?

    I think this joke's on /.
  • Step 3: Sell WinCE devices to hunters along with "homeless hunting" licenses.

    Step 4: Profit!!!
  • by Anonymous Coward
    As a homeless open source developer, I find this whole idea extremely offensive. In fact...

    crap, library's closing. bbl
  • by schmaltz ( 70977 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:27PM (#8742422)
    Anybody who has ever been arrested, tried, convicted, of any misdemeanor or above should be tracked using this technology. It's just a good idea - we can keep an eye on criminals.

    Better, you could program the automatic doors of your home or office to not let in tagged criminals.

    By storing the information in XML format, you can interactively query a RFIDed criminal to find out what their background is (violent vs. non-violent, type of theft, drug use, current income level, gender, SSN, credit history, etc.) and let your security system decide on the fly whether you want that particular entity on your premises.

    In fact, governments, building owners, and residents could publish their specification for the type of people they will allow into their space -this will solve all sorts of social ills in the future. The Upper Eastside of New York City, for example, could specify:

    <Entities_Allowed>
    <Income minimum="50000"/>
    <Convictions allowed="white_collar"/>
    <Race allowed="caucasian,asian"/>
    <Memberships disallowed="ACLU,NYCLU"/>
    <Jokes onyou="april foools" ;>
    </Entities_Allowed>
  • by John Courtland ( 585609 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @07:32PM (#8742462)
    Last year, the April Fool's day stories actually seemed real. They had thought behind them. This year's crop blows. Next thing you know we'll see a story about carbon nanotube dildos or something equally retarded...

  • They also plan to put one in John Kerry's head to figure out where he is at. At this time, nobody seems to be able to figure out where he is on any issue. With this device, we'll be able to track him in real time as he flip-flops his way through the polls.
  • by handy_vandal ( 606174 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @08:21PM (#8742805) Homepage Journal
    The miniscule RFID tags are no larger than a matchstick and will be implanted subdermally, meaning under the skin

    Dude, I don't know about your matchsticks ... but the kind I use are known as "Farmer's Matches", and they're huge!

    -kgj
  • by Fantastic Lad ( 198284 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @08:22PM (#8742818)
    Seriously. Who do they threaten?

    If Upper Management wanted to tag homeless people, they'd be tagged already, and the only reason it might be done would be to soften the rest of the public up. Though, truthfully, I'd see it starting with prisoners, then parolees, then addicts who get free needles, then people receiving unemployment benefits. Then Islamics.

    But even all of that would only be a psychological form of control; something purely to make you know that you're the dog and break down your spirit of rebellion. In truth, the 'real' threats, (regular people with jobs and pseudo-power), are already tagged. You carry one or two of them around with you in your wallet and you produce them for regular scanning. And beyond that, you'll probably be wearing a tag or two in your fancy GAP pants by the end of this year without even realizing it.

    Anyway, all these April Fool's stories are giving me a stomach ache. Not a single one of them so far would be terribly out of place on a regular news day. That'll give anybody with a soul gastric problems.


    -FL

  • Hurry midnight (Score:3, Insightful)

    by BCW2 ( 168187 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @08:29PM (#8742869) Journal
    The sub-moronic April fools submissions today are terrible. Be more creative please, at make the first three sentances sound believable.
  • by core plexus ( 599119 ) on Thursday April 01, 2004 @09:55PM (#8743319) Homepage
    That reminds me of a story.

    A few years ago, I went into a Sears to buy a new microwave oven. They had a display model that was really cheap, so I decided to buy it. The sale associate says "Whats your name" and I say "Why do you need my name? I'm paying cash for this" and he replies "Because the computer tells me to".

    I ask "Does the computer tell you other things?" He doesn't get it. So I say "Jackie Brown" (just watched the movie the night before). He says "Huh? But..." but types it in anyway. Then he asks for my address. I reply "I don't have an address, I'm homeless." Mind you, I'm wearing nice clothes, driving a new car, etc. He asks "If you're homeless, then why do you need a microwave?" I respond "Because I don't have one." Increasingly frustrated, he says "I have to put something in." So I pick up a card and read the stores address to him. By this time a couple of other bored sales associates have come round. He doesn't like my answer, but types it in anyway. Then I pull a fat wad out of my pocket and peel off a hundred. And walk out with my oven.

    -cp-

  • by acidrain69 ( 632468 ) on Friday April 02, 2004 @12:22AM (#8744128) Journal
    I worked on one of the prototypes for this. One plan was to put a bottle of MD 20/20 at the end of a phone-booth sized room in the city, then the doors would shut on the homeless eprson in question, then someone sticks them with a prod, kind of like cattle.

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