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Solar Power From Home Curtains 239

kaliann writes "With the push for more sustainable energy, easy DIY kits for alternative energy sources are likely to become quite popular in the coming years. We may see some big improvements in our ability to 'green up' if these photovoltaic curtains become widely available."
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Solar Power From Home Curtains

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  • by Geoffrey.landis ( 926948 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @08:32PM (#24038415) Homepage
    they only produce power when the curtains are closed.
    • they only produce power when the curtains are closed.

      Not necessarily. They may produce 1 to 10% when they're open - unless the curtains are completely hidden from the window.

      • Serious flaw (Score:5, Informative)

        by goombah99 ( 560566 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @10:03PM (#24039055)

        Actually I think they will save more power with the curtains open than closed.

        I'm shooting from the hip here but looking at the picture I expect there's a serious flaw here. The Curtains look black so they are absorbing a lot of light energy. We know they are highly inefficient. So they mainly heat your house.

        SO in summer time you will pay more in cooling costs than you gain in electricity. Either that or be warmer. Logically you want the drapes outside where they would be amiently cooled.

        Now if you draw the blinds and thus it gets darker and you need to turn on a light well. So much for any gains.

        Finally most houses are designed to have their windows shaded more or have an oblique incidence in summer time. Thus during the time of maximum sun, and warmth you get the least electricity.

        In winter time when the solar flux is less and there will be fewer hours of daylight the direction of incidence will be better. But chances are you'd like the light.

        The drapes have no thermal mass so they act like the worst kind of traum wall where they heat up and cool down quickly. No thermal damping.

        Seems like archecturally this is a bad idea from the get go regardless of how the solar fabric technology improves. Maybe in northern canada or something it makes sense.

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by wooferhound ( 546132 )
          The article goes on to say that the curtains can be placed on the roof too. From the Article...

          ==Kennedy and her team have calculated that by covering just 10 percent of a roof area in Porto, Portugal, solar curtains could provide as much as 70 percent of the average electricity used by a typical household each day.==

          This article said many things that made it sound totally stupid.
        • Once the light enters your house you have the heat. It's just a matter of where. With it tapped between the drape and the window you could just leave the window open a touch to let the heat out. The sun is also really bright so if your working ,like in an office, you have lights on to counteract the glare. So use curtains to reduce sun glare and power the lights. Win/Win
        • Re:Serious flaw (Score:5, Informative)

          by niiler ( 716140 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @11:29PM (#24039485) Journal

          This is a non-issue. When I was in Spain over a couple of summers, most houses had black-out shades, and many of them were dark in color. Few Spanish houses had AC, so everyone just draws their shades during the day while they are at work, but also during siesta (think nap time). You'd be amazed how much cooler it was with the shades down than with the shades up.

          That said, I realize that in the US we don't have siesta, but we do have a ton of work-aholics who don't spend much time at home during the day. I would be more concerned with the reflection from the glass diminishing the efficiency of the curtains. Perhaps putting them on the roof *would* be a good idea.

        • Re:Serious flaw (Score:4, Interesting)

          by NitroWolf ( 72977 ) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @01:28AM (#24040081)

          There's also the problem of the fact if you have modern, quality windows (think Schuco triple paned / krypton filled type), the solar radiation getting through the window is so dramatically reduced as to make the solar panels useless. I know this because I use to charge some small electronics via a solar panel in the window. After installing new windows, the panel no longer gets enough solar energy to drive a current and thus no charging. I have to open the window or put the panel outside.

          Another clue was the fact that some of my plants died for lack of sun, even though they got what appeared to be the same amount of light as they did previously.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by cp.tar ( 871488 )

          SO in summer time you will pay more in cooling costs than you gain in electricity. Either that or be warmer. Logically you want the drapes outside where they would be amiently cooled.

          Now if you draw the blinds and thus it gets darker and you need to turn on a light well. So much for any gains.

          You discount for the fact that not all people are at home at all times.
          If I'm not at home, I want my house to remain cool with as little energy spent as possible. That means that if those curtains are put outside windows (or maybe fashioned into blinds of some sort), they both prevent heat entering and produce electricity.

          Also, if you put them on windows, it does not mean that windows have become your primary energy source, so it's either electricity or light. It's more like "create power in your spare tim

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by geekoid ( 135745 )

          A couple of points:

          "...more in cooling costs than you gain in electricity"

          How do you know how much electricity is being made? I didn't see that in the article.

          "Logically you want the drapes outside where they would be amiently cooled."
          Logically that is something you want to do now, because even white curtain absorb and trap some heat. So while this is a good idea, it's not a factor with just solar. It's outside this equation, if you will.

          "Now if you draw the blinds and thus it gets darker and you need to tu

    • by MobileTatsu-NJG ( 946591 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @08:38PM (#24038467)

      they only produce power when the curtains are closed.

      Right... Right, like you're sitting there posting your comments on Slashdot wiht all the curtains drawn.

    • by xstonedogx ( 814876 ) <xstonedogx@gmail.com> on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @08:45PM (#24038535)

      I don't see the problem. During the summer, the curtains should be closed to block out some of the heat from the sun. During the winter, allowing the sun to heat your home is a more efficient use of that energy anyway.

      • by peragrin ( 659227 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @09:54PM (#24038995)

        Exactly.

        Combine this with either solar hot water heater on our roof, or even more photovoltaic cells, possibly a 2 kw wind turbine and suddenly 50% of you average home power is being used by green energy.

        The coming energy crisis isn't going to be solved by any one thing, but dozens of small sub systems that work together. they don't have to be massive farms or fields either. just 30-50% of your home electricity is enough to offset the demand.

        • by afidel ( 530433 ) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @01:29AM (#24040093)
          Solar water heaters simply make no sense if you live in an area that hard freezes (a large percentage of the US). The designs that can cope with significantly cold temperatures for sustained periods cost about $3K plus specialized installation and they still require energy to power their pumps to fill the reservoir since it has to be drained daily during freezing periods. I REALLY wanted it not to be so, because I love being green when it makes sense and it would drop about $100-200 per year off my gas bill at current prices.
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by timmarhy ( 659436 )

          why is it people are so ready to believe every so called green product? this curtain idea is so obviously flawed it's amazing anyone is buying it as real in the first place.

          for a start, you do realise this is about the worst way to collect solar power? 2nd, claiming it can produce 70% of our power need is a total lie - base load people, learn what it is.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by goombah99 ( 560566 )

        If you are trying to cool with curtains you want white curtains.

      • Home Design Basics (Score:4, Interesting)

        by westlake ( 615356 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @11:05PM (#24039375)
        During the summer, the curtains should be closed to block out some of the heat from the sun. During the winter, allowing the sun to heat your home is a more efficient use of that energy anyway.

        This assumes that your house is oriented properly and that your windows are large.

        In northern climes, windows exposed to the north and to the prevailing winds tend to be small. Windows to the south tend to be big. You want that southern light and heat in winter. Home Design Basics [homepower.com]

        Curtains are an element in interior design. They have colors, they have folds, they have textures. That does not make for an efficient collector. Your wife may have other plans for that window.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by SlashTon ( 871960 )

      There are a lot of comments of "great, close the curtains during the day to generate electricity that you then need to power the lights - because the curtains are closed during the day!".

      These are valid comments, but closing the curtains during the day (and missing out on the light) still makes sense during the week, for a large part of the population in the Developed World. In many (most?) households, the adults will be at work during the day and the kids at school. Lots of hours of sunlight where nobody i

  • by GigaHurtsMyRobot ( 1143329 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @08:33PM (#24038419) Journal
    Does the carpet match the drapes?
  • DIYers have long made use of sunlight so that we can "green up".
  • I keep my curtains open during the day. I thought was usually the case?

  • "Close the damn curtains! Battlestar Galactica marathon starts tonight."
  • I doubt it... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Darkness404 ( 1287218 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @08:38PM (#24038469)

    With the push for more sustainable energy, easy DIY kits for alternative energy sources are likely to become quite popular in the coming years.

    Two words. Doubt it. There are all kinds of ways to save money, but most people don't do them. To put it into a computer perspective, how many people do you know upgrade RAM? Out of that many how many do them themselves? How many people upgrade a CPU? How many people salvage CD-ROM drives from old computers? How many save old cases and build computers in them? Very few I would think. Same thing with these, they are a way to save money, but for most people they will just complain about high oil prices, try to get a raise, petition for an increase in minimum wage, repeat. These will be about as popular as running BSD on your toaster. You can do it, it might be cool, but most people don't see the need.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Aphoxema ( 1088507 )

      I salvage all sorts of stuff, but not really to save money as much as spare the costs I don't have the money for.

      I'm saving money using a laptop instead of my desktop which uses about 2.3 times as much power. It's not to go green, I just almost had a heart attack when I saw my electric bill was 173 dollars for the month and I'm still past due putting me at 368.

      I didn't think one computer, one air conditioner, and 2 lightbulbs that are hardly on would have cost so much. Oh, and a fridge. And two ceiling fans

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by bane2571 ( 1024309 )
        one air conditioner
        It's summer there isn't it? A website I just found recommends nearly 3 kilowatts of power to cool my bedroom, my computer's MAXIMUM power consumption is 0.55 Kilowatts. Turn of your Aircon, it will fix your bill problems better than using a crappy laptop.

        This does highlight the fact that photo voltaic gizmos tend to get quite hot so using photo voltaic curtains seems to me to be a bad idea since air conditioners burn way more electricity than these curtains can feasibly provide any ti
    • Well then they will only be really popular with geeks then. Most of us want those DIY projects that save energy and cut down on costs. How many of us geeks have friends and family that would be willing to pay us to put up those curtains for them, most likely the same ones that want us to remove viruses from their computers.

    • You've clearly never been to a Michael's [michaels.com], Or a Joann's [joann.com]. The market for anydamnthing that can be used for sewing projects is absolutely HUGE. And, having spoken to plenty of the folks in such stores (after all, I publish a DIY manifesto poster, so I care about this stuff), I've found that many of them make things like curtains at least in part with an intent of saving money. And, interestingly enough, even when they discover that their projects are costing more than something mass-produced from China that th
    • by Hairy1 ( 180056 )

      Just to point out, Solar panel drapes are probably the worst idea for saving power. First of all if you open the drapes you don't collect power. When will you want to open them? On sunny days! How much will they cost? If they are anything like normal panels they will currently take about 20 years to break even cost wise. And that calculation is based on having solar panels soaking up every minute of available sunshine. Also you generally need direct sunlight on cells, not just reflected light. What about th

    • Re:I doubt it... (Score:5, Interesting)

      by TooMuchToDo ( 882796 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @10:52PM (#24039319)
      1) I've replaced all my bulbs with compact florescents.

      2) I've replaced all the bulbs at both my parents' houses with compact florescents.

      3) I've put smart strip outlets on my entertainment center in the living room, and the tv/dvd/roku box in the bedroom so everything is only on when the TV is on.

      4) I've replaced desktops in the house with laptops (big energy saver there)

      5) My favorite: I converted an old diesel generator to run on biodiesel/waste vegetable oil/etc. It's set to run in the morning about 30 minutes before I get up. It's coolant runs through a heat exchanger to preheat my water to about 100-120 degrees for the shower (in the event it's not running, a tankless hot water heater does the work). The power is fed back into my utility.

      Some of us are trying the best we can =)

    • Cynical, but I can't argue with you either. The "average" person can't manage to do simple home repair jobs without making a mess of it; ask them to do anything involving electricity, and they'll shy away from it.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      From a business perspective, it doesn't matter if the curtains actually provide enough electricity to validate their use, but that purchasers THINK they're "going green" by buying them. The company making these curtains only really cares about the marketability of their product.

      The truth is, you'd be much better off plastering these curtains to the roof or side of your house than hanging them up as curtains, but any product that requires real effort to "go green" isn't going to be as marketable as easy, hap

    • Re:I doubt it... (Score:4, Informative)

      by Eivind ( 15695 ) <eivindorama@gmail.com> on Thursday July 03, 2008 @02:55AM (#24040403) Homepage

      People don't even do it when it's a trivially easy task that they perform regularily anyway.

      Take modern light-sources as opposed to incandescent ones. A typical bulb migth live for 2000 hours, cost $1, and consume 60W. A modern replacement (that screws directly into the same socket) migth live for 8000 hours, cost $10 and consume 15W.

      At current electricity-prices it SHOULD be a complete no-brainer.

      $1/2 + 1000 * 0.06 * $0.15 = $9 (for each 1000 hours of light)

      $10/8 + 1000 * 0.015 * $0.15 = $3.50 (for each 1000 hours of light)

      It's one third the price, basically.

      It's also more environmentally friendly (ok, so you DO need to return the used bulbs responsibly), creates less extra heat in the summer, and thus reduces your AC-bill somewhat.

      And it literally costs you NO time at all. When the old bulb burns out you need to put in a new one ANYWAY. And putting in a modern one instead of an old-fashioned one is a similar task, one ain't harder than the other.

      Nevertheless, hundreds of millions of old-fashioned bulbs burn in USA today. It's sad, really.

  • by credd144az ( 1078167 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @08:42PM (#24038501)
    Summer months in the Desert: Closing drapes helps keep heat out, solar technology helps to power the Air Conditioner.

    Non-summer months everywhere else: Close the curtains to power the lights that you need because the curtains are closed.
  • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @08:53PM (#24038605) Homepage Journal

    The killer app for renewable energy will be to get the cost down.

    Once it makes economic sense for me to go green, I will, but in the mean time much as I want to save the planet and everything I have bills to pay :-(

    • by Anonymous Coward

      The trend is the other things will become more expensive. So you will pay, do not worry.

    • Very true. I live in a duplex, and the roof is mostly flat. There's enough room up there for enough solar panels to make me independent of external power, at least during daylight hours. I don't own this house, but even if I did, the cost would be high to do that at current prices; it would probably be 10 years before I'd see a real savings from the installation -- even if I did the work myself.
      • Greenroof. (Score:3, Insightful)

        You could always greenroof part or all of it and, at the least, superinsulate that way, not to mention perhaps having fresh munchies if you have easy access to it. I'm also seeing more and more people phasing this kind of approach in by getting a fifty or hundred dollar panel that is connected to a battery charger and little by little switching to battery-powered devices, including using it to charge their laptops. The toxics from most batteries are an obvious downside, but it's still a good start for some
    • by dbIII ( 701233 )
      The killer app for solar is already lanterns with a rechargable battery to replace smoky kerosene lamps in developing countries.
  • Great (Score:4, Funny)

    by ZarathustraDK ( 1291688 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @08:59PM (#24038645)
    Now I just have to block out the sun to get light in my room.

    If only there was an easier way...
  • by CrazyJim1 ( 809850 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @09:00PM (#24038659) Journal
    I know we're at a point where solar is looking like a good investment. Still... Isn't it easier for a solar contractor to just make large solar power plants to supplement the grid than worrying about the specifics of installing home to home?

    I'm all for the day when I can offset my electricity bills a small amount because I have my house decked out in solar material... I'd rather just have cheaper electricity though especially in the near future. Plugin, hybrid cars are going to start sucking on the power grid. If we don't add more solar or nuclear plants to the grid, we could see an electric shortage in the form of higher prices for one.

    Oh and I'm still bummed about the study the government is doing to make sure solar is environmentally friendly. I mean, isn't the waste output from coal plants harmful to the environment? If we had the option to cut that waste back, aren't we helping the environment?

    Anyway, the future looks bright to me. The US economy is holding even though it has taken some hits. If we can just get to a new era in surplus solar energy, we can get into some really interesting solutions to getting off oil. Some people think it will be hydrogen. Some people think it will be electric cars. I'm not sure which is going to take off in the long run. I think it is going to be hybrids that make the most initial impact because they don't have the limitations of the electric car's maximum range. For electric cars to have a long range, gas stations will have to be refitted with a tool to swap out battery arrays. Hydrogen faces a similar challenge in that it'd need special fill up stations too. Plug in hybrids work off traditional gas stations.

    I like Nanosolar's approach because it is so high tech and also economically feasable. Still low tech solar options such as parabolic mirrors to focus sunlight and run steam turbines could be good at first. I think we have a lot of unused land on Earth, and the faster we can cover it, the faster we can have surplus energy. Surplus energy makes transportation costs go down so you can travel all that you want even if you're poor. And even more interesting is that surplus energy lowers the cost of transporting food, so impoverished people can be supplied better. Oh yeah, and surplus energy also means that everything is cheaper so people have more disposable income which incidentally, also helps poor people.
    • by iamhigh ( 1252742 ) * on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @10:26PM (#24039185)

      I think we have a lot of unused land on Earth, and the faster we can cover it, the faster we can have surplus energy.

      Great attitude. I am no environmentalist or anything, but even I realize that humans have already had a HUGE impact on Earth. The Fish and Wildlife Service [fws.gov] reports 1238 endangered species in the US alone.

      I agree that solar power is great, but how about we try to use existing surfaces such as high rise buildings, as someone else mentioned. How about those hybrids use solar car sun shades to charge the battery while your at work? I think a little thought would be better than just sucking the earth dry.

      • A car doesn't have enough surface area to provide a meaningful amount of energy to charge during the day using photovoltaics.
    • by jmorris42 ( 1458 ) *

      > Oh and I'm still bummed about the study the government is doing
      > to make sure solar is environmentally friendly.

      I think you are missing the entire point of the enviromental movement. Not your fault really since their stated goals are misinformation. They TALK about alterantive energy. But spot the recurring pattern in what they actually DO.

      Solar? As you observed, the second anyone actually tries to get licensed for a large scale installation the whinging about some poor snail (frog, bird, etc) t

      • by RustinHWright ( 1304191 ) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @12:44AM (#24039861) Homepage Journal
        and don't lump everybody in together. I don't know what part of Fox "News" you get your information from, but speaking as an environmentalist and the son of an actual environmental scientist (yaknow, a real doctorate and everything), most of us out here in the reality-based consensus are more than willing to see all sorts of installations go in. In fact, the big party I went to last night had to work around the huge steel frames being built by some real world environmentalists I know to put in a few kilowatts of solar at a farm not too far away. And the rocket stove [wikipedia.org] workshop currently underway in our building. And the several vehicles being stripped out and rebuilt as electrics or biofuel-optimized.

        Again, I don't know what world you're living in, but there are millions of us who are getting this stuff done as fast as we can, including plenty of real companies like Sequential, with stock and everything, who are making quite a nice living selling biodiesel and are already tying up every rational source of supply they can get their hands on. Oh, and those of us who understand things like cellulosic sources never thought that corn-based approaches were ever anything but yet another bit of agribusiness welfare.

    • by willy_me ( 212994 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @11:38PM (#24039517)

      For electric cars to have a long range, gas stations will have to be refitted with a tool to swap out battery arrays.

      While this is true for batteries, I do not believe that batteries will power the future electric cars. Do a wikipedia search for Supercapacitors [wikipedia.org] to see what is on the horizon. They are not yet perfect but MIT has demonstrated capacitors that offer 1/4 of the storage capacity of Li-Ion batteries.

      There are many advantages to using capacitors in place of batteries - mainly due the the greatly reduced internal resistance. First, the charge time is reduced to under 10min. Second, when used in a hybrid vehicle, one does not encounter the loss associated with "charging" the batteries so regenerated power can actually be reused. Thirdly, they will not go bad like batteries. They are typically rated for ~10000 charge cycles. There are also many other reasons why these new capacitors are desirable - just read the wikipedia link.

    • It's always funny to me how so many slashdotters are rabidly enraged at just about every large corporation in fields they understand, such as Microsoft, the ISPs, the music, movie, and television companies, but are so quick to assume that monolithic, corporate-controlled and/or government-controlled solutions are the best approach to things outside their expertise.

      Trust me folks, General Electric and the other companies who end up in charge of most huge power stations are even more corrupt and untrustworth

    • Solar is wasteful. It takes an acre of panels to generate 1 MW and the land is used up. It takes 0.08 acres for a wind turbine, generating between 1.5 MW and 2.5 MW, and the land can still be used for grazing, etc.

    • Oh and I'm still bummed about the study the government is doing to make sure solar is environmentally friendly.

      Depending on the type of solar panel, there are a lot of nasty chemicals used in making them, and more still that have to be safely disposed of when it's time to replace the panel. Did you think that elves spun them out of moon-beams?

  • it's true! (Score:3, Informative)

    by ILuvRamen ( 1026668 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @09:03PM (#24038679)
    I have a window with a pretty bad shade and too thin of curtains in my room. After waking up when the sun rises instead of 10:30-ish like normal too many days in a row, I got some black rodeo fabric that lets absolutely no light through and VHB taped it to the wooden frame around my window. Now it's totally black but I leave it on all day and whenever I need to open my window, that fabric feels about 100 degrees and the air trapped behind it is about the same. And that's with my shade closed! If I left it open, black fabric alone could absorb a ton of heat energy. So I think solar curtains would work great.
  • by FudRucker ( 866063 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @09:12PM (#24038741)
    why not make roofing material photovoltaic = kills two birds with one stone...
    • by mccabem ( 44513 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @09:43PM (#24038939)

      As with seemingly everything, it's already been done [google.com].

      Unisolar has been making these shingles [altersystems.com] for years. Maybe others are too now. I don't know much about them, just read about em online.

      -Matt

      • Apparently they aren't anymore though, the product is listed as discontinued...

        PPI (Price Per Inch) seems a bit steep too, but I'd have to check my comparisons.
        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by T3Tech ( 1306739 )
          Shingles don't seem to make as much sense as panels for a couple reasons which is why I would suspect that there hasn't been enough market for the shingles hence their discontinuation.

          I'm just going based on my sometimes unreliable memory (and maybe pure speculation) here but unless there has be some change in technology: 1) The efficiency of PV cells tends to decrease as their temperature increases, so having panels which allow for some type of airflow behind them which offsets their 'heat magnetism' sh
  • Worthless article (Score:5, Insightful)

    by joocemann ( 1273720 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @09:15PM (#24038769)

    Unless they post the watts/hr it can produce under normal conditions. Its like seeing a car in a car lot without a price on it... You just keep on rollin. Seeing this 'form of energy coolness' seems worthless without some type of qualitative evidence. I want to see the watts/curtain/hr.

    • The first sentence in TFA is:

      Imagine every time you closed your curtains, you were capturing enough solar energy to power your laptop.

      I don't think they realize how little power a laptop uses. Can we get in "number of laptops" the power usage of a refrigerator or water heater?
    • by chgros ( 690878 )

      watts/hr
      A Watt is already energy per time. Maybe be you meant Wh/h?

  • The main reason you'd keep your curtains closed on a sunny day is to keep your house from warming up. Solar panels, unlike curtains, do not reflect sunlight so your house is going to heat up quite nicely (ie: they convert most of it into heat). Well at least that's what I understand of how solar panels work.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Shados ( 741919 )

      If you convert the energy in electricity, you won't heat yourself up. Though if you DO use it to heat up your house, well... you've never lived up north eh? When its getting awkwardly close to -40 degrees outside on a sunny day, I definately don't want to keep my house from warming up. Heating can make my power bill goes up quite a bit.

  • by sstory ( 538486 )
    They look pretty ugly, but I think the real problem would be price/performance. I think solar will really take off either when home kits use tracking mirrors to concentrate light onto the photovoltaic panel, or when Solar Thermal Energy plants are built on a large scale.
  • Don't you think... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by yancey ( 136972 ) on Wednesday July 02, 2008 @10:33PM (#24039223)

    Does anyone else think it strange that we use power-consuming devices to illuminate the interior of our houses and other buildings when we built them with a large covering over the top that blocks out the daylight by design? Seems it might, just possibly, be a bit more practical to design them so we don't block out the light in the first place. We westerners consider ourselves "high tech". Ha! An advanced technology would use daylight directly during the day and store the excess for use at night.

    • by chgros ( 690878 )

      large covering over the top that blocks out the daylight by design?
      Actually, it doesn't block out daylight by design, usually. It blocks out rain, for instance. Also, many buildings have multiple floors.
      There's also these things called "windows" (it's not just an operating system!) which allow sufficient sunlight to come through to avoid the need for artificial lighting when possible (again, with multiple floors, it's not always possible).
      Some buildings also have lightwells. But there's indeed a lot of prog

  • Alot of southern states encourage the use of solar screens to block a great deal of the sun's energy from getting into the house. The drapes would get significantly less energy with this type of screen. I like the idea of "little" improvements to reduce energy consumption, I just don't think this one qualifies. It reminds me of people who supersize the fries and then get a diet coke with that.

  • There'd be something ironic about plugging an EV into the road for power... -Randy

    • by Confused ( 34234 )

      If you have some magic photovoltaic cells that can be used as pavement and survive the wear and tear of daily traffic and still produce a good amount of power, it might work.

      But as far as I know, no such thing exists, so this idea is about as good as the fart-collection undies to store the methane at the source and provide bio-gas energy.

  • Junk (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Confused ( 34234 ) on Thursday July 03, 2008 @02:09AM (#24040253) Homepage

    Stupid idea, the whole gimmick.

    If you want to do solar power, better do it properly and mount decent solar cells in a place where it really can generate power (eg on the roof in the right direction with the right inclination).

    The idea of those curtains is just stupid, because you dole out good money to get some crappy cells which end up being mounted in a bad place.

    If you happen to live in a hot area, it would be far more ecological if you invested in some proper shading that the load on the air conditioning can be reduced. That saves more that those stupid curtains will ever produce. For the money saved, get decent cells on the roof.

    If you live in a cold area - usually with only few hours of good sunlight - the curtains are even more stupid, because they produce even less. Invest in good double or triple glazing to keep the heat in and catch the few sun-rays you get to heat the room.

    To sum it up, this junk gimmick is exactly what home shopping TV would try push to ride the eco-wave. Do the environment a favor and forget about that stupid idea.

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