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Oh, FFS. (2, Funny)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | more than 5 years ago | (#25115549)

Just when we were hoping for faster SSD's.

Next you'll be telling us that new improvements in tape mean non-sequential access, and RW speeds 5x faster than current NAND.

Call me when punch cards support DRM.

Re:Oh, FFS. (1, Insightful)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 5 years ago | (#25115827)

actually, I read an article about nano-punch cards that could store like 800 GB per square inch. They said making 0 impacts or 1 smooth areas would be simple even down to like 10 nm apart. I really hope we don't see that ever.

Re:Oh, FFS. (1)

Enter the Shoggoth (1362079) | more than 5 years ago | (#25116701)

actually, I read an article about nano-punch cards that could store like 800 GB per square inch. They said making 0 impacts or 1 smooth areas would be simple even down to like 10 nm apart. I really hope we don't see that ever.

Why not? If it's cheaper then magnetic or capacitive techniques... bring it on.

Re:Oh, FFS. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25116961)

The problem appears when you plan to erase something, and you have to cover the holes with tape...

Re:Oh, FFS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25117169)

I think you mean the problem appears when you realize how much it costs to build and operate a clean room just so you can load DNF from a single punch card.

Re:Oh, FFS. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#25118759)

you have to cover the holes with tape...

you have to cover the holes with nano-tape.

there, fixed that for ya! :)

Re:Oh, FFS. (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25116395)

TFA says that this is MRAM [wikipedia.org] which is basically like DDR/SDRAM except that it uses magnatism rather than capacitors/NAND latches to store the data.

This means nonvolatile RAM (Passwords/private key offline scraping FTW) or it could actually be used in SSDs if it is significantly faster/cheaper than flash chips.

Re:Oh, FFS. (2, Informative)

adrianwn (1262452) | more than 5 years ago | (#25116893)

Actually, it's more like a replacement for the "DRAM"-part in "(DDR-)SDRAM": "DRAM" describes the underlying memory technology, while "synchronous" describes the interface method (the results are returned on the edges of the clock signal). So the product will probably be called "SMRAM" or "DDR-SMRAM".

Neat... (0)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#25115575)

But I can't help but wonder how much of a difference will make for most of us.

Re:Neat... (4, Insightful)

Fourier404 (1129107) | more than 5 years ago | (#25115703)

That's what they said about transistors.

Re:Neat... (2, Insightful)

flnca (1022891) | more than 4 years ago | (#25117633)

Indeed, that's what they said about transistors. Even in the early 80ies, we learnt in school that tubes were the non plus ultra and that transistors had an uncertain future!! A few years later, tube production was stopped everywhere.

Re:Neat... (1)

krog (25663) | more than 4 years ago | (#25120389)

Early 80's? Where'd you go to school, Tomsk?

Re:Neat... (2, Informative)

kesuki (321456) | more than 4 years ago | (#25129411)

the music industry was still highly reliant upon tubes to this date, there are still suppliers of tubes for use in the music industry, even though CDs are all digital. some artists insist that the use of tubes changes the way audio sounds before it's sampled by the digitizer... and of course, there are those who still release music on vinyl.

Can we have some specifics? (2, Interesting)

isBandGeek() (1369017) | more than 5 years ago | (#25116051)

How fast is "as fast as permitted according to the fundamental laws of physics' limit"?

Re:Can we have some specifics? (4, Informative)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 5 years ago | (#25116149)

RTFA :)

By using the ballistic spin torque reversal, potential MRAMs could be programmed by current pulses quicker than 1 nanosecond and subsequently, achieving write clock rates well above 1 GHz. Thus, high-density and non-volatile memory executing at the clock rates of the fastest volatile memories were enabled.

Re:Can we have some specifics? (1)

LeadSongDog (1120683) | more than 4 years ago | (#25122831)

Tunneling through the press releases, we find:

Quasi-ballistic spin torque magnetization reversal S. Serrano-Guisan, K. Rott, G. Reiss, J. Langer, B. Ocker, and H. W. Schumacher Physical Review Letters 33 (2008)

Then a trip to scholar finds:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0804.4840 [arxiv.org]

Biased quasi ballistic spin torque magnetization reversal S. Serrano-Guisan, K. Rott, G. Reiss, J. Langer, B. Ocker and H. W. Schumacher

you know whats better? being able to buy it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25116299)

oh wow! thats amazing! why, i think ill go right on down to my local computer store and purchase a extra magnetic memory chip for my computer!

Re:you know whats better? being able to buy it... (4, Funny)

The Master Control P (655590) | more than 5 years ago | (#25116629)

Yeah, I bet your father said that when Intel produced their first 1024x1 ram chip. Pff... fuckin pie in the sky that was, integrated circuit RAM. They sure wasted their time; It never did become widely available at a decent price, as I recall.

Woops, gotta go. Sense amplifier on my core is drifting out of alignment.

Ballistic switching? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#25116977)

Is that related to percussive storage?

Re:Ballistic switching? (3, Funny)

fbjon (692006) | more than 4 years ago | (#25118357)

Ballistic switching? Is that related to percussive storage?

Is that what they call fisticuffs these days? I do agree that too much input makes my face sore.

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