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Android Ported To iPhone

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the but-can-you-go-the-other-way dept.

Android 280

anethema writes "iPhone hacker planetbeing, from the iPhone Dev Team, has successfully ported the Android OS over to the iPhone. He is doing it on a first-generation iPhone, but others may be possible. The port is pretty functional, with data, voice, and many apps working, although it is running a bit sluggish and buggy at the moment. There appears to be much work left."

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This showes the POWER of linux!!!! (2, Funny)

For a Free Internet (1594621) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937680)

I am alsways joyeful that Microsoft created Linux for us so we can do these wondrefule things with our phone-hands. Never befoer was this pssible, EVER in hte WORLD butr today, YES WE CAN!

Finally, (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938002)

A compelling OS on a mobile Apple device.

I think I just jizzed myself (5, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937686)

I can't believe it. Someone's answered my dreams!

A phone that is expensive, sucks, *and* pretentious. I thought I was going to have to go with a lame old Android phone, but man, there's hope for poseurs like me yet!

Re:I think I just jizzed myself (1)

Thanshin (1188877) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937816)

A phone that is expensive, sucks, *and* pretentious.

So we've got here either a phone that is sucks or a phone that pretentious?

Well, if there's a phone that can be sucks or pretent, it's the IPhone.

Re:I think I just jizzed myself (5, Funny)

outsider007 (115534) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937960)

And we've apparently found a new niche: Label-conscious serial public masturbators.

Don't forget the porn !!! (5, Insightful)

DrYak (748999) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937834)

and finally, a Jobs-approved way to get pron on your iPhone.
(He *did* say to get Android !)

Re:Don't forget the porn !!! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938534)

I don't think he meant for it to be put on one of HIS phones.

Yessiree! (5, Funny)

itsdapead (734413) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937886)

Apple's low-cost hardware with its wide range of options and standard interfaces teamed up with Android's consistent, carefully designed user interface experience, dazzling speed and frugal memory use.

Truly a marriage made in heaven.

Re:Yessiree! (2, Informative)

hawkeyeMI (412577) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937952)

Tip to moderators. This is a joke. Not sure why this is modded insightful.

Re:Yessiree! (4, Funny)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938056)

Tip to moderators. This is a joke. Not sure why this is modded insightful.

From the /. FAQ: Note that being moderated Funny doesn't help your karma. You have to be smart, not just a smart-ass.

Re:Yessiree! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938598)

You have to be smart

You have to be in line with the populist groupthink for karma mod ups. Intelligent criticisms of things like Apple, Google, Linux, etc. will still result in the fury of downmods.

Re:Yessiree! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938192)

Please do not tip moderators. They're already paid enough.

Re:Yessiree! (1)

Richy_T (111409) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938700)

Tip to Alanis, it's also a genuine example of irony.

Re:Yessiree! (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938436)

It's like a DIE fighter for your pocket.

Flash anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938024)

iPhone users can now get flash to run on their devices!

Re:I think I just jizzed myself (1)

Jewdass (946382) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938310)

You're not doing a very good job of hiding your insecurities.

Re:I think I just jizzed myself (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938456)

Code things alone now mostly
Left MS heart broken not lookin' for community
Surprised in my eyes when I logged online
The nerd site and I saw the story
My brain stood still so did time and space
Never felt that I could free mobile again
But the feel of the code screamed I need a developer
Mom turned to me that's when she said it
Looked me dead in the face, asked "early birthday? or christmas"
And I
Jizzed in my pants

Pr0n! (3, Funny)

Pharmboy (216950) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937700)

So Steve Jobs was wrong, you CAN get porn on your iPhone ;)

Re:Pr0n! (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938164)

Somewhere, right now, Steve Jobs is throwing a narcissistic hissy-fit that would make even Steve Ballmer say "DAMN!"

Re:Pr0n! (1)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938858)

More likely he's just not caring. You bought the iPhone hardware, put money in his pocket, and relieved his company the expense of having to support the phone should you ever go to the genius bar with the phone like that.

The porn thing is probably just being in a rock and hard place of having stuff like that in the App store yet there being only one app store. If it went in, you'd have all the parenting groups crying foul, and once another app store opens that Apple allows the phone to connect to, they'll have just blessed their own competition.

Apple should come out with a solution though.

Re:Pr0n! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938218)

I don't recalling anyone ever saying that... I have heaps of porn on my iPhone.

Re:Pr0n! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938964)

Try reading the hundreds of articles on the subject, including here on /. yesterday. Duh.

Re:Pr0n! (1)

Flammon (4726) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938294)

Re:Pr0n! (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938364)

When someone tells you 2 + 2 = 4, do you also think they're cheating?

Re:Pr0n! (1)

Flammon (4726) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938920)

Who said anything about cheating? Sure, it's an obvious joke but it was word for word with matching caps on "CAN" so a link would have been nice but then again, this is Slashot 2.0 and the vocal few aren't so nice.

Re:Pr0n! (1)

Flammon (4726) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938378)

Oops, wrong link. Ah, here it is, most digged comment. http://digg.com/apple/Linux_on_the_iPhone_Android_running_on_iPhone [digg.com]

Re:Pr0n! (1)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938510)

And they stole it from Reddit [reddit.com] .

But I'm sure Jellybagel doesn't care, because whining about an obvious joke is fucking retarded.

Re:Pr0n! (1)

tylerni7 (944579) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938458)

*ignores low UID*

Original? you must be new here.

Just use Safari like everyone else... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31937702)

Long way to go for porn.

android debug build is sluggish (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31937710)

running a bit sluggish

He says that he's running a debug version of Android. I would expect it to be sluggish.

Re:android debug build is sluggish (-1, Troll)

peragrin (659227) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937842)

Doesn't matter. I would be willing to bet that when andriod is fully ported it will still be slower and buggier than the iPhoneOS on that hardware. A vertical intergration in your hardware software stack means you can squeeze every drop of performance out of it. The horizantal software development favoured by msft and Linux crowds will always be lacking that.

Apple does more on less hardware.

Re:android debug build is sluggish (4, Insightful)

dancingmilk (1005461) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937888)

Apple does more flashy useless bullshit on less but more expensive hardware.

FTFY.

Re:android debug build is sluggish (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938094)

Apple does more flashy useless bullshit on less but more expensive hardware for the fudgepacking, twinkie sucking fags out there.

FTFY

If he can get it going on a 3G iPhone... (1)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937722)

... then it may just be the next step when my contract is up with O2 in a couple of months. I want the free google turn-by-turn app, and if I don't have to buy new hardware to get it, it might just make the difference.

Excellent port (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31937724)

although it is running a bit sluggish and buggy at the moment

So you are saying it runs just like a "real" Android device?

Well this is... (2, Funny)

the_one_wesp (1785252) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937730)

an interesting turn of events...
1.) Does this mean that Adobe will resume flash development [slashdot.org] for iphone?
2.) Will Jobs now consider the iPhone a viable platform for porn applications [slashdot.org] ?

Re:Well this is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938730)

What this will mean, especially when the bugs are ironed out of it is, all those Iphone users who tells us "Ok, you own the hardware but Apple's software is on it, so hands off!" can now shut up. Now we can OWN the hardware and put something else on it. Does that satisfy the Apple crowd or are death threats imminent for the person who accomplished this?

Case in point (0, Flamebait)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937736)

So uhm, all those people who say the iPhone/iPad is not a computer because things like this are "impossible" -- where are you now?

Re:Case in point (2)

tsj5j (1159013) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937794)

Perhaps as an Apple fanboi you kinda missed their point.

Let me re-iterate to you:
APPLE STIFLES INNOVATION AND LIKES TO ABUSE THEIR POWER OVER DEVELOPERS.

Do you seriously think that armed with a NDA-protected, $99/year developer fee, restricting nearly all aspects of development and content and NOT providing alternative app stores will EVER match up to Android?

Re:Case in point (1, Informative)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937812)

Perhaps as an angry Apple hater, you missed the part where I was ridiculing Apple fanbois.

Re:Case in point (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938036)

APPLE STIFLES INNOVATION AND LIKES TO ABUSE THEIR POWER OVER DEVELOPERS.

Since you seem to be this thread's expert on the topic, perhaps you can answer this simple question:

Why do you approve of the significantly stricter controls and higher development that Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony place on their Wii, XBox, and PS developers, but hold Apple to a different standard for their consumer electronics device?

Re:Case in point (2, Interesting)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938404)

At what point did anyone say they approve of restrictions on other computing systems? Who is holding Apple to a different standard? We all have the same things to say about Nintendo, Sony, and every other company that actively works to restrict the users of their devices.

Re:Case in point (1)

Ephemeriis (315124) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937860)

So uhm, all those people who say the iPhone/iPad is not a computer because things like this are "impossible" -- where are you now?

Lots of things have all sorts of electronics in them... Frequently enough processing power to be called a computer, if you really want to be pedantic about it. I could probably go to the junkyard and rip some chips out of some cars and port Android to that pile of silicon too... But that doesn't really make my car a computer, does it?

Used to be that you'd buy an engine or a motor. It'd be a big ol' freestanding thing. You'd use an assortment of gears and belts to attach it to whatever equipment you wanted to run. You might very well use that same motor to drive a number of bits of hardware.

You can certainly still do that... But folks don't, generally. That kind of thing is pretty much reserved for large-scale industrial stuff, not your average homeowner. These days our gadgets come with their own motors built-in.

A drill, a saw, and an electric toothbrush all have electric motors in them... And you could, if you really wanted to, rip those motors out and re-purpose them... But I certainly wouldn't call a drill a motor.

Similarly... Despite the fact that an iPhone does contain a processor and can run arbitrary code on it, I wouldn't call it a computer.

Re:Case in point (4, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937930)

Note that the iPhone has more than just a "processor [that] can run arbitrary code" -- it has a CPU, memory, a general user interface, and could, in the absence of deliberate software restrictions on the part of Apple, be used as a small mobile computer (which happens to have the ability to connect to a cell phone network). This is not as extreme as running NetBSD on a toaster, or repurposing a car's microcontrollers for some other task -- the iPhone has all the hardware needed to be used for general consumer-grade computing, albeit in a pocket sized form factor.

Re:Case in point (1)

Ephemeriis (315124) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938074)

Note that the iPhone has more than just a "processor [that] can run arbitrary code" -- it has a CPU, memory, a general user interface, and could, in the absence of deliberate software restrictions on the part of Apple, be used as a small mobile computer (which happens to have the ability to connect to a cell phone network). This is not as extreme as running NetBSD on a toaster, or repurposing a car's microcontrollers for some other task -- the iPhone has all the hardware needed to be used for general consumer-grade computing, albeit in a pocket sized form factor.

I understand all that.

And the same could easily be said of many other smartphones out there.

But I wouldn't actually call any of them a computer.

Re:Case in point (2, Insightful)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938230)

I honestly do not understand why you would not call a device that has every hardware feature my laptop has a "computer" -- the only difference is the form factor and the advertised use. What if I installed software on your laptop that railroaded you into using it in a specific way, would I have suddenly transformed your laptop into something other than a "computer?"

Re:Case in point (4, Insightful)

Ephemeriis (315124) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938440)

I honestly do not understand why you would not call a device that has every hardware feature my laptop has a "computer" -- the only difference is the form factor and the advertised use. What if I installed software on your laptop that railroaded you into using it in a specific way, would I have suddenly transformed your laptop into something other than a "computer?"

I guess one of the primary differences for me is the ease of executing arbitrary code.

My laptop has a keyboard that I can use to type in commands/code/whatever. It also has an optical drive that I can use to load software. It has USB ports that I can use to load software off a USB key, or connect another CD-ROM or floppy drive or whatever.

The iPhone has a touchscreen and little else. If I want to load software on it I have to go through their official channels, or jailbreak my phone. If I want to write my own software for it, it requires a second device to do the programming and then upload it to the phone.

Similarly, the PLCs that control the heating and air conditioning in my building are most certainly computers in the technical sense. They're fully functional and can be programmed to do pretty much anything I want them to. But I have to connect external devices to them in order to do that... I have to plug in a laptop with a serial cable if I want to actually do anything to them.

My Cisco routers are also pretty much computers in the technical sense. And they've got USB ports I can use to store/load software. But again I have to connect another machine if I want to do anything with them. Otherwise they just do their job, day in and day out, like any other appliance.

I guess I'm not really debating the functionality of the iPhone. It certainly is a computer in any technical sense of the word. But there are connotations to the word "computer" that just don't match an iPhone.

Re:Case in point (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938536)

"But there are connotations to the word "computer" that just don't match an iPhone."

Which are not a result of the iPhone's design, but a result of the proprietary software that the iPhone ships with. All I see here is Apple trying to reshape the way people think about mobile computing, by removing capabilities and taking control of those devices -- and the fact that people think there is something wrong with using the word "computer" to describe the iPhone shows that Apple's tactics are working. I am not blaming you here, and you are certainly not alone, but it is very troubling for me that Apple (and to a great extent, other smartphone manufacturers) is so successful at dividing up the world like that.

There is no reason for the connotations of the word "computer" to be inapplicable to an iPhone. Really, the software is creating that situation, and Apple could, overnight, fix that problem, although I doubt they will (not with Jobs running the show)...

Re:Case in point (1)

Combatso (1793216) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938518)

Note that the iPhone has more than just a "processor [that] can run arbitrary code" -- it has a CPU, memory, a general user interface, and could, in the absence of deliberate software restrictions on the part of Apple, be used as a small mobile computer (which happens to have the ability to connect to a cell phone network). This is not as extreme as running NetBSD on a toaster, or repurposing a car's microcontrollers for some other task -- the iPhone has all the hardware needed to be used for general consumer-grade computing, albeit in a pocket sized form factor.

I understand all that.

And the same could easily be said of many other smartphones out there.

But I wouldn't actually call any of them a computer.

Computer: a machine for performing calculations automatically

so yes, all smartphones are computers.. so is the ECU in the car you speak of..

i think your confusing the word "computer" with "user workstation"

Re:Case in point (1)

sayno2quat (1651749) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938880)

But I wouldn't actually call any of them a computer.

Well hello there, Steve Jobs.

Re:Case in point (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938636)

We can have flash, java, a camera and broadcast anything we like from fashionable hardware running a real OS.
All we need now is a Downfall video of Hitler learning Android OS has been ported over to the iPhone.

Android ??? (4, Funny)

artg (24127) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937738)

.. There's an app for thet !

Re:Android ??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938342)

You're confused, actually this is more due to Android's capabilities and its Linux roots rather than Apple's openness ;)

Good, I don't have to learn Objective C now (0)

physburn (1095481) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937746)

but is apple going let me use it, and will there be any installed user base? Not appearing or not found in the App store, would stump me from wanting to developing there to.

Re:Good, I don't have to learn Objective C now (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937876)

Note that is was done on an older iPhone; my guess is that the next generation iPhone will be even more restricted and prevent this sort of installation.

Re:Good, I don't have to learn Objective C now (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938020)

Objective C and English : two things you didn't learn.

Porn will find a way. (4, Funny)

leuk_he (194174) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937748)

rule #35. If no porn is found of it, it will ...

Re:Porn will find a way. (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937828)

It would be easier to just use websites.

Apple is currently only asserting silly levels of control over the app store, not over all data transfers.

Re:Porn will find a way. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31937984)

I like that you inserted the word "currently" in there. Very appropriate.

Tell me how to do this!!:) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31937770)

This is so exciting! How how how!!:)

Neat hack, but ultimately useless (0, Troll)

hasdikarlsam (414514) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937782)

The android OS eats memory like nobody's business. Using java will do that.

The iPhone has only 128MB of memory. Androids typically have at least twice that - the nexus one has four times as much.

'nuff said.

Re:Neat hack, but ultimately useless (4, Informative)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937920)

The 3GS has 256Mb, but the 2G and 3G do only have 128Mb.

This will be nice even if only for google's turn by turn app. I love my iPhone, but I don;t love TomTom's ludicrous price for their app.

Re:Neat hack, but ultimately useless (1)

ender- (42944) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938254)

The 3GS has 256Mb, but the 2G and 3G do only have 128Mb.

This will be nice even if only for google's turn by turn app. I love my iPhone, but I don;t love TomTom's ludicrous price for their app.

Well, you could always look into other options, such as Waze [waze.com] . It's not that great with home addresses but it works fine with most businesses I've tried. Plus it gives turn-by-turn voice directions, learns improved routes as you use it, and it's Open Source.

As with much OSS, it's not perfect, but it seems to be steadily improving since I've started using it.

Re:Neat hack, but ultimately useless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938428)

i just used the free mapquest 4 mobile and its turn by turn worked fairly well.

Re:Neat hack, but ultimately useless (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938798)

ALK Copilot Live 8 for iPhone - North America [apple.com] Other maps and locations available.

I run CoPilot on my Windows Mobile phone, having used dedicated TomTom units and TomTom software on my old WinMobile device. ALK beats it hands down, and is a good site cheaper.

Re:Neat hack, but ultimately useless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938828)

Google's navigation is a wretched excuse for navigating while driving. At least dozen times so far this year it has given me completely wrong address locations in areas around the state. Since its places information is dependent on Google Maps, whose store locations are user-contributed, the information is more often wrong than useful. I went back to using my Garmin with 4 year old information because it's a better experience overall.

Re:Neat hack, but ultimately useless (1)

edmicman (830206) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938234)

How does this manifest to the user? I've got a Droid and cant' say I notice any problems that I'd attribute to the OS eating memory. Granted I haven't really gone looking to see what the RAM footprint is, but everything I do runs smooth and stable. Am I missing something?

Re:Neat hack, but ultimately useless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938938)

OS eats memory only if you don't know WTF you're doing with the phone. Load up something like "Advanced Task Killer" to kill open apps. Android offers true multi-tasking. The applications stay open in the background to allow quick switching and persistent stored information, much like any machine running *nix or Windows. You want to free up memory? Close some programs. L2Use device or STFU.

Best headline ever! (1)

vvaduva (859950) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937830)

I think the headline is in itself better than the substance of the story! Is Jobs punching holes in the walls now?

Re:Best headline ever! (1)

Abstrackt (609015) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938026)

I think the headline is in itself better than the substance of the story! Is Jobs punching holes in the walls now?

I love that this headline came less than a day after the headline about Steve Jobs recommending Android for porn.

Re:Best headline ever! (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938662)

Downfall clip in ....

Its iPhone OS 4.0! (1)

cb95amc (99589) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937902)

So this is how they are planning on introducing multitasking!

call me when apple approves it (0, Redundant)

StripedCow (776465) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937936)

Even if you don't need to jailbreak the device to run it, Apple probably doesn't approve it and will block it in their upcoming firmware version, or in the next-generation iphones.

Until apple shows serious intentions to lower their absurd level of control, I'm not going to buy an iphone, nor develop for it.

Sigh, why can't hardware makers these days just do that: make hardware?

Re:call me when apple approves it (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938050)

It is more profitable to control your customers and railroad them into using only the applications you approve (and turn a profit on). Apple is not in business to bring computers into the world (not anymore), they are in business to increase their profits (it would be "terrible" if they sacrificed a chance to turn even higher profits), and if that means mistreating everyone else, then that is how it will be.

Re:call me when apple approves it (1)

mswhippingboy (754599) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938370)

block it in their upcoming firmware version

Why would you need to upgrade to later firmware versions if you're running Android on your iPhone? Seems to me you would only want to upgrade to later Android versions.

...nor develop for it.

The point your're missing is that you WON'T have to develop for the iPhone. You can develop for Android and you apps will work on all Android phones as well as iPhone that have this installed.

Sigh, why can't hardware makers these days just do that: make hardware?

It won't be long before the differences in hardware between Apples products and Droid based products will be minimal. At that point Droid phones will have a distinct advantage in being able to do things Apple can't, if simply because Droid phones won't have all the restrictions that Apples products do.

Re:call me when apple approves it (1)

RivieraKid (994682) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938614)

block it in their upcoming firmware version

Why would you need to upgrade to later firmware versions if you're running Android on your iPhone? Seems to me you would only want to upgrade to later Android versions.

That's how I read it at first, but I think the point is that new iPhones that come with new firmware preinstalled won't be able to take advantage...

Re:call me when apple approves it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938756)

...or if the firmware fixes some low-level problem that cannot be addressed from software.

Re:call me when apple approves it (5, Insightful)

rwa2 (4391) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938554)

For all of their "think different" ads, Apple is a very traditional vertically-integrated engineering firm... like the old "big iron" unixes: Cray, SGI, SUN, IBM, where they sold the entire platform: hardware, software, custom interfaces, etc.

For all the Microsoft-bashing we do around here, they were really the ones that separated hardware from software on the PC (and then Linux came around and offered the even more of the same).

But now we have vertically integrated smartphones again. And for all the Google vs. Microsoft that we do, Android is pretty much Google's effort at doing to the smartphone what Microsoft did to the PC.

So don't take your freedom of hardware abstraction for granted! But in the end, we pretty much know how this dance should turn out.... just look at what Cray, SGI, SUN, IBM are doing now :-P

Apple will probably always be Apple (at least as long as Steve Jobs is around). Because he doesn't make products for us geeks, but for the rest of the people. He know his market well. And it is not us. So get over it and let the people have their stripped-down straightjacket internet devices.

Re:call me when apple approves it (1)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938864)

"For all the Microsoft-bashing we do around here, they were really the ones that separated hardware from software on the PC"

Let's be clear here that Microsoft only did that on the PC. Throughout the 70s, a large amount of software for Unix was decoupled from the machine and the specific Unix running on the machine, and that software was exchanged between various hackers. The only innovation Microsoft introduced, in terms of computing, was to decouple software from hardware and then sell that software.

"Because he doesn't make products for us geeks, but for the rest of the people."

The great danger with this thinking is that it justifies the control Apple exerts over its customers, and encourages the idea that Apple's customers should be the general public. I really do not want to live in a world where a company like Apple, which we can now say has a history of censorship (including political censorship), exerts such a high level of control over the primary communication medium of the general public.

Re:call me when apple approves it (1)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938876)

So, um, don't update the firmware....

Re:call me when apple approves it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938948)

Thats not an option if the firmware fixes some low-level problem not reachable from software.

Also, the newer phones sold may have the new firmware version. So if my phone goes dead, I'll have to buy a new one, with restrictive firmware.

Might as well (1)

Ctrl+Alt+De1337 (837964) | more than 4 years ago | (#31937968)

iPhone OS 4 will not be supported on the original iPhones, which have basically hit EOL. If you want any more new software features for one of those, they won't be coming from Apple.

Re:Might as well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938380)

This is true with computers too. I have a PowerMac G5, which would be running OS 9 (ooh yeah), or like OS X 10.1, since the newer versions aren't supported. Instead, it's running Debian Linux, and it has been up for like 460 days now. (And it's doing useful work, I am renting it to a company to handle their email, etc.).

Re:Might as well (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938524)

Unless I'm missing a tiny detail, recent PowerPC Macs are supported up to OS X 10.4. If my 12" Powerbook G4 can run it, I really don't know why your PowerMac G5 couldn't.

Re:Might as well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31939006)

I have a PowerMac G5, which would be running OS 9 (ooh yeah), or like OS X 10.1, since the newer versions aren't supported.

Liar. If you really owned a G5, you'd be aware that it can run Leopard. Even my old G4 (from 1999) can run that.

Sluggish, buggy... (1)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938090)

...but still faster than running Android on an original G1.

Why? (1)

clvrmonkey (136864) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938102)

Who tagged this with "why"? If the article had been "Android ported to toaster" everyone would have been jumping all over it. Say what you will about the pretentiousness of iphone users, it pales in comparison to holier-than-thou geeks.

Does flash suck down battry fast? or is apple just (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938114)

Does flash suck down battry fast? or is apple just trying to lock out free flash games?

Refund for the iPhone OS. (1, Insightful)

dmesg0 (1342071) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938134)

Can all the iPhone owners who are forced to buy the OS bundled with the hardware demand a refund now? Why should they pay the Apple tax for the OS they don't need when a better alternative is free?

Re:Refund for the iPhone OS. (1)

mswhippingboy (754599) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938392)

Same reason you pay the MS tax when you buy an off-the-shelf PC to run Linux on.

Re:Refund for the iPhone OS. (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938416)

That problem already existed if you bought a Mac computer.

"Maybe we can finally get Flash." (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#31938228)

From the site:

"Maybe we can finally get Flash."

Probably should've ported Maemo instead of Android then.

I download this through the App Store, right? (0)

JustinFreid (1723716) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938264)

This would be perfect on the iPhone 4 prototype.

Obligatory car analogy (1, Troll)

jason.sweet (1272826) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938340)

This is like buying a Lexus and replacing its interior with Chevy parts.

Re:Obligatory car analogy (1)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938762)

Yeah, a Corvette engine [corvetteracing.com] .

Re:Obligatory car analogy (4, Funny)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938840)

Well, maybe they just want the brakes to work.

Finally, it's the (2, Funny)

jitterman (987991) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938374)

It's the year of Linux on the iPhone! Who needs desktops?! Pah!

Running Sluggish and Buggy? (1)

geordie_loz (624942) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938494)

Slugish and Buggy, just like my actual android phone (HTC Magic, UK)

Porn on the iPhone. (1)

jbssm (961115) | more than 4 years ago | (#31938860)

So Steve was this what you were talking about when you said if you want porn get Android?
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