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What's Not To Like About New iPad?

timothy posted more than 2 years ago | from the let-him-count-the-ways dept.

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Hugh Pickens writes "With 3 million sold over the last week what's not to like about the new iPad? Michelle Maltais at the LA Times does a good job of putting together a compendium of gripes about the new device, justified or otherwise. Most people thought that Siri on the new iPad was a gimme; instead it has a scaled back version — dictation. 'If you want Siri, buy an iPhone. Plain and simple.' The new iPad is a little heavier than the iPad 2, thanks to the better graphics processor and more powerful battery. At one-tenth of a pound heavier that really doesn't sound like much, but it can start to matter if you hold your iPad in one hand for long periods or have any kind of repetitive stress injury. Apps designed for Retina display can be up to five times bigger and it's not just a problem for owners of the new iPad. Legacy owners of the original and iPad 2 who have these apps get to feel the pain too, since updates aren't device specific." The list continues, below."The hot-selling device can reach up to 116 degrees during intensive use, according to a test by the Consumer Reports. PCWorld tested 43 tablets and found that the third-gen iPad takes the longest — almost six hours — to fully recharge its battery. You'll love the blistering speed of the 4G iPad, you won't love blowing through your monthly data allotment in just 24 hours if you use streaming video. A number of customers have been complaining on the Apple Support page about a weaker Wi-Fi connection that in some cases will hold a connection for only a few minutes. And last, whatever you do, don't drop the new iPad. From waist height, the damage to the third-gen iPad is fairly extensive. 'Only a small portion of the screen survived.'"

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Fragmentation (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466783)

It's not just for Android any more!

And with Steve Jobs out of the picture, it will get worse!

Re:Fragmentation (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466861)

+1 troll point for using a buzz word. Do you even know what fragmentation is?

Re:Fragmentation (5, Funny)

zAPPzAPP (1207370) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466883)

I know there is a windows tool to get rid of it.

Re:Fragmentation (-1, Flamebait)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467139)

Sorry, what fragmentation issue did this introduce?

Re:Fragmentation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467241)

I'm guessing the dude means too many products for a company to manage. Like what ails Nokia. Although clearly not an issue for Apple.

Re:Fragmentation (0)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467255)

Apple are managing the exact same number of products – one iPad, one iPod touch and one iPhone. Where's the fragmentation?

Re:Fragmentation (5, Informative)

Ommadawn (5636) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467315)

For me the fragmentation comes down to whether it has a camera or not. As an owner of a original iPad, I was more and more disappointed at apps that didn't include me: many photography apps, and some games just wouldn't work. GTA3 wouldn't work without crashing before I even finished the first mission.

This will only get worse as people who are developing apps aim their performance goals at the newer devices. It's similar to when you try to put a new windows on your old machine - sure, it "works" but it is slower because you're still running on old hardware.

Re:Fragmentation (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467369)

Apple are managing the exact same number of products – one iPad, one iPod touch and one iPhone. Where's the fragmentation?

You suck at counting you fucking retard.

3 iPads, 10 iPods, 6 iPhones, 5 macbooks, 2 powermacs, and an AppleTV in a pear tree.

Re:Fragmentation (3, Funny)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467253)

I was about to say that the "user experience" has been fragmented across the different types of iPads until I realized that true Apple fans will have destroyed their old iPads (and any others they find) before buying new iPads.

and I'm supposed to give a shit why? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466799)

I use an android tablet you fool!

Re:and I'm supposed to give a shit why? (2)

shadowsurfr1 (746027) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467071)

I'm sorry.

News... (5, Insightful)

jhoegl (638955) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466831)

We make drama where there is none.
Everything is amazing [youtube.com]

Re:News... (5, Insightful)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466957)

I have to agree with this.
 
They may have paid too much for their "how to bring more traffic to your blog by creating more drama when there is none" seminar paid by Cory "World's Most Annoying Self-Promotionist" Doctorow
 
The number of crap, negative and leading headlines, along with "the answer is no [wikipedia.org] " question headlines has really spiked since Malda left slashdot. Some PHB decided that they can further monetize Slashdot as a mainstream blog by destroying what little culture Slashdot has and alienating their core long time userbase. Good luck with that, assholes. I've already started looking for a replacement to Slashdot.

Re:News... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467187)

Unfortunately, almost everything else is worse than Slashdot. The articles are generally worthless, but the community is still worthwhile and every now and again something worth talking about actually comes up.

Everything Is Amazing And Nobody Is Happy (4, Funny)

readandburn (825014) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466837)

Re:Everything Is Amazing And Nobody Is Happy (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466959)

I didn't buy an iPad and I am quite happy.

Re:Everything Is Amazing And Nobody Is Happy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467303)

Daddy, tell us what it was like to live in a humorless world....

Coming Soon (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466839)

Of course, the next yet-to-be announced version of Android, running on the next yet-to-be announced tablet, will solve all of these problems.

Isn't that how it works?

Re:Coming Soon (3, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467221)

Except that nobody is buying android tablets because of their price point.

The $599.00 android tablets are $200.00 overpriced. You CAN NOT charge apple prices for non apple product unless it is 200% better than the apple product.

That is like Kia selling the new Optima for $86,500 and hoping you dont notice it's not a BMW.

Now multiply this by a hundred devices (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466841)

That is all.

"1/10 of a pound" (5, Interesting)

DogDude (805747) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466843)

At one-tenth of a pound heavier that really doesn't sound like much, but it can start to matter if you hold your iPad in one hand for long periods or have any kind of repetitive stress injury.

I'm shocked at how physically inept modern people are becoming. The gnashing of teeth over ounces when it comes to gadgets is truly shocking to me. How does one become so incapacitated that an ounce or two is really worth mentioning?

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466877)

but if this trend continues, in 9 more years it could be a whole pound heavier!

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (0)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466901)

How much heavier is that? I don't have any idea. Does it mean the new iPad weighs as much as an old one with a couple of stickers on it, or as much as a bag of cement?

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (2)

prichardson (603676) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466931)

It's still lighter than the first generation.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (0)

DogDude (805747) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466969)

1/10 pound = 45.3 grams, according to Google.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467169)

Google is wrong. You cannot convert weight to mass.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (0)

gstrickler (920733) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467205)

Where is the +1 "Pedantic, but funny" rating?

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

thesh0ck (1983948) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467219)

?? wow.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467327)

1/10 pound at normal earth gravity = 45.3 grams mass. Happy now?

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466903)

Would be great if it actually got lighter each year, but the new model is still lighter than the original.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466987)

it matters if you hold it for a while.

have you ever done any serious woodworking or home repair, and had to hold a screwdriver or a hammer for extended periods of time?

trust me, after a couple of hours it can start to feel very heavy.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (2)

Grimbleton (1034446) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467019)

My HP TouchPad is .2lbs heavier than the iPad3 and I can hold it one-handed for hours.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467191)

"My HP TouchPad is .2lbs heavier than the iPad3 and I can hold it one-handed for hours."

Some of those porn videos are really long.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467217)

See, all that time spent playing one handed games finally paid off!

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (5, Funny)

tmosley (996283) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467013)

Don't worry, they made it get hotter and hotter so you CAN'T hold it long enough to get a stress injury.

This also stops you from using up the battery and all your bandwidth!

Every bug is a feature!

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467237)

Oh you got the Winter version. The summer version will cool down.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

epp_b (944299) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467015)

Or that one would still be using imperial units in 2012.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467097)

Fashion goes in cycles. Sooner or later my bell bottoms and imperial units will be cool again.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

LittleBigScript (618162) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467017)

I know. Americans should gripe using grams!
Damnit, go metric America!

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467085)

I know. Americans should gripe using grams!
Damnit, go metric America!

Grams do not measure weight. Why can't stupid metric advocates learn their units correctly that they incessantly rattle on about.

Oh and if Metric is so great, then quick with out looking it up, how many milli-torr in a kila-pascal?

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

newcastlejon (1483695) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467183)

Oh and if Metric is so great, then quick with out looking it up, how many milli-torr in a kila-pascal?

Hell if I know. You do realise that torr isn't metric and a kila-pascal isn't anything at all?
Of course not.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467287)

You do realise that torr isn't metric and a kila-pascal isn't anything at all?

These are all units of pressure. The Imperial unit of pressure is pounds per square inch. Torr is metric. It is not an SI unit but Metric != SI. Pascal = N/m^2 is the SI unit of pressure.

Torr [wikipedia.org]

The torr (symbol: Torr) is a non-SI unit of pressure with the ratio of 760 to 1 standard atmosphere, chosen to be roughly equal to the fluid pressure exerted by a millimeter of mercury, i.e., a pressure of 1 Torr is approximately equal to one millimeter of mercury. Note that the symbol is spelled exactly the same as the unit, but the symbol is capitalized, as is customary in metric units derived from names.

Pascal [wikipedia.org]

But like all stupid people, that spout out about how great the metric system is, you don't even understand your own units.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (2)

thesh0ck (1983948) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467229)

grams measure both... what is wrong with people on this site...

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467133)

Funny how the latest Olympic weightlifting shoes by Nike have as their lead feature that they're 50 grams lighter the previous version. Why are people who throw hundreds of pounds over their head several times a day, several days a week, so incapacitated that an ounce or two is really worth mentioning? Oh right, because an ounce or two is worth mentioning to pretty much anyone when it comes to things carried on your hands or feet. Get over yourself, tough guy.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (1)

DogDude (805747) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467155)

That's called "marketing". Why a weightlifter would care about what his/her shoes weigh is beyond me.

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467199)

slightly off topic but most athletes worry about weight in all different ways I'm a bodybuilder and every bit of weight is measured

Re:"1/10 of a pound" (3, Insightful)

msobkow (48369) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467281)

How many iPads equal the weight of an Osbourne 1?

Just curious... both are "portable", and advertised the fact heavily. But society's definition of "portable" sure has changed!

what's not to like? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466855)

Way too many stories about things that don't matter...

So, basically (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466857)

Every great new feature has a potential con. If you don't have an iPad, it's a great iPad. If you have an original iPad, it's a good upgrade. If you have the iPad 2, you're probably okay holding on to it until the next generation.

Best Part is.. (5, Insightful)

rykin (836525) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466871)

The best part about the new iPad is that the previous versions have gotten cheaper. So if you really want a iPad 2, you can pickup a refurb from Apple for as low as $350 (or $400 new) which makes it more competitive with some of the Android tablets out there.

Note: I am not a tablet user.

Re:Best Part is.. (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467161)

$350 for a refurbished unit? Sorry... it isn't THAT good. Not even NEW is that good.

Over-hyped, copycat devices by Apple are seriously overpriced and completely underwhelming.

I'll wait until someone makes a cheaper, better performing Linux tablet computer that I know is rock solid. Fuck Apple.

Re:Best Part is.. (2)

gstrickler (920733) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467249)

40M+ iPad 2 buyers disagree with you.

Re:Best Part is.. (4, Funny)

readandburn (825014) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467335)

Yes, but there are probably DOZENS of Linux users that agree with him!

iFashion Accessories (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467349)

40M+ iPad 2 buyers disagree with you.

...and 40M+ iPad 2 buyers are wrong in my opinion.

For me, spending money on an iPad is a waste of money - I have no real need for it. I'd like to have one, but when I think of it, it's just a gadget - an uncessary purchase.

Or think of it this way: the iPad is just another glizty gadget for people to waste their hard earned money in this consumer oriented economy.

And people wonder our savings rate is so low.

The other day, I talked a young woman out of buying an iPhone - I think. I asked her, "Why do you really need it." She just wanted a smart phone, especailly an iPhone because it's a fashion accessory.

Gone the wrist watch; enter the smart phone.

P.S. My wife and I are living on less than $60K/year, got a mortage and we're banking $1K/month - after retirement contributions. And we don't spend money on crap like the this.

Just saying.

Re:Best Part is.. (1)

BanHammor (2587175) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467301)

Thing is, nobody of the big guys made tablets that didn't fail until Apple did, and then everybody followed suit. Yes, they are overhyped, and I can't find a meaning to them, but they aren't exactly copycat. And rock solid Linux tablets aren't really coming - Vivaldi is more or less useless, and sorry, but KDE has never been rock solid.

Re:Best Part is.. (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467189)

Refurb? you can get like new ones used for $250.00 The one I bought nobody on this planet could tell it was used, and it came with a smart cover as well.

Get over your "used is icky" feelings and buy used for even cheaper.

of any of these, only the battery thing means much (5, Informative)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466889)

I have one, the charge times are quite slow. To be honest, too slow. Don't get me wrong, you can live with it, but it does also matter in some situations. And on top of that if you decide to just use your buddies' iPhone charger instead of the included one, you could charge it all through the work day and only pick up 25% charge or something. With the iPad 2, the iPhone charger was an acceptable back-up plan to the stock charger in a pinch. Unless your battery was almost completely dead the iPad 2 would charge completely off an iPhone charger overnight.

The weight isn't really any different, the reason it's so uncomfortable to hold for long periods is the same as any other iPad, there's simply no good way to hold it without blocking or touching the screen.

The drop situation is the same for all iPads, even if you drop tested an older one and got different results, you just got lucky on the old one. The screen is a huge expanse of glass on any iPad, you have to be careful.

WiFi has been the same on the iPad 3 as the 2. I even used mine side by side with a 2 for a bit and the results were the same.

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466973)

That's funny. My iPad 1 takes a fucking year to charge.

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (3)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467119)

My iPad 1 takes a fucking year to charge.

Is this one of those biblical things where a day is a year?

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467321)

He's a virgin, so doesn't really know what a "fucking year" is.

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (4, Insightful)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467057)

Taking a long time to charge means that it must have a really big freaking battery. Apple says you can get 10 hours of use out of the thing. That's pretty good considering how fast the processor, and how good the resolution on that screen is. It take 2 hours to charge my cell phone, and it probably doesn't even have 1/10 the amount of battery as the iPad.

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (4, Informative)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467165)

It's got a 43Wh battery, that's nearly twice the capacity of the iPad 2, and about 1.5 times the capacity of the 11" MacBook Air.

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (1)

thesh0ck (1983948) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467283)

and 1/2 the power the battery my laptop has and it operates for 8 hours on a charge and takes 2 hours to fully charge while using it.

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (3, Informative)

msauve (701917) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467361)

"Taking a long time to charge means that it must have a really big freaking battery."

What it really means is that Apple has hit the limit for the amount of current they can put through their proprietary connector. They've already exceeded the spec for what's allowed through the USB end of their cables. A lithium based battery should be able to be fully charged within 2 hours, absent such external constraints.

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (4, Insightful)

OS24Ever (245667) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467103)

Don't you sleep?

That's when my iPad's charge. I lay down at 12, 1, or 2AM, plug it in, pass out, and when I wake up it's charged and if it took an hour or six to charge I give no fucks. It's charged.

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (3, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467297)

Don't you sleep? That's when my iPad's charge. I lay down at 12, 1, or 2AM, plug it in, pass out, and when I wake up it's charged and if it took an hour or six to charge I give no fucks. It's charged.

But that won't work for me - I like to play Infinity Blade II while I sleep.

Re:of any of these, only the battery thing means m (1)

thesh0ck (1983948) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467267)

IThe weight isn't really any different, the reason it's so uncomfortable to hold for long periods is the same as any other iPad, there's simply no good way to hold it without blocking or touching the screen.

hold it.... you know... by the back.. in your palm.... just saying...
its a two handed device.

Par for the course? (4, Interesting)

swb (14022) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466911)

It strikes me that this is just par for the course for most Apple releases.

iPhone 3GS, iPad 1 -- both of mine had wifi problems until software updates came out.

iPhone 4 -- antennagate -- appeared totally fine by the time I got my 4 in March of 2011.

iPhone 4s -- batterygate -- greatly improved in 5.01 and mostly fixed by 5.1.

Overall, it seems like there's about 6 months after a device's release that Apple releases a serious of fixes to fix or mitigate some deficiency and that by that time the device is largely as good as it will get.

I just wish they would add bluetooth profiles to the iPad for microphone headsets and mice, although the latter I only want with RDP apps, although I think it might be handy if you were using a full-screen editor, too.

It kind of makes me wonder why no one has made a BT mouse adapter that plugs into the microphone port or the dock connector. With an open SDK, vendors who wanted mouse capabilities could add support for the hardware.

I expect it has some bugs too (3, Interesting)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466977)

I know it has bugs in the LTE connection. It's conked out before, and I even had the WiFi connection disappear after I turned LTE off (to save power). Going to airplane mode and back fixed all the problems, at least for now.

Also, the bars in LTE mode don't make much sense, or at least aren't what you're used to. With 5 bars I get 30mbps down, with 1 I get 24mpbs down. We've been trained from 3G that 1 bar is a lot slower than 5, so they should rescale the bars so that when you are at half speed or less you get 1 bar.

Re:Par for the course? (2)

Sancho (17056) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467135)

I believe that apps can now add arbitrary Bluetooth profiles (for their use only.) Ask your favorite RDP app author for mouse support.

Re:Par for the course? (2, Insightful)

Barbarian (9467) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467151)

No microphone headset or bt mouse profile

I just wish they would add bluetooth profiles to the iPad for microphone headsets and mice, although the latter I only want with RDP apps, although I think it might be handy if you were using a full-screen editor, too.

Of course there's no BT profile for BT microphone headsets and mice. This is consistent with Apple practice.
- A microphone headset would let you make private calls with VOIP apps, which might mean less calls on your iphone, or even not need your iphone at all if properly implemented.
- A mouse might allow development of apps which would require you to use your macbook less and/or not even buy a macbook in the first place.

Re:Par for the course? (4, Insightful)

AmiMoJo (196126) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467279)

It kind of makes me wonder why no one has made a BT mouse adapter that plugs into the microphone port or the dock connector.

Because Apple won't allow it. If it doesn't fit with Apple's paradigm you don't get it, simple as that.

Note that I'm not trying to troll here, that is simply a fact. If you wanted an open platform you should have bought one.

What's not to like about "THE" new iPad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466923)

I loathe people who refer to it as "iPad", and not as "an iPad" or "the iPad".

It's a machine, not a person. Do you anthropomorphise your kettle?

Re:What's not to like about "THE" new iPad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467033)

They do not do it by themselves, they imitate what Apple does. Apple's promotional material is completely devoid of articles.

Re:What's not to like about "THE" new iPad? (1)

oobayly (1056050) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467105)

But I only read the promotional material for the articles.

I don't refer to others as "human" (0)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467141)

Hello, human. What's not to like about human?

They're referring to it by its genre, not anthropomorphizing it.

If they're doing anything, they're just making it into a concept or a group noun.

What's not to like about hockey? What's not to like about money? What's not to like about being tall?

From a new iPad user (0)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466925)

It's fast, amazingly beautiful (old pictures look much better), so convenient to have all (compatible) apps automatically copied to the new iPad from my iPhone.
Just disappointed that the iPhone HDR is not included (??) with the new ipad camera and I don't care about Siri (the dictation option is available, i'm happy with that)

It's still pointless. (1, Redundant)

x0d (2506794) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466947)

It doesn't even matter if it runs on iOS, Android or whatever. My brother actually bought into the hype and got himself a Galaxy Tab but had to sell it after about 3 months because he wasn't using it for anything other than occasional web browsing. The 'cool' factor wears off very quickly. Netbooks were better. At least those were still 'real' computers.

Re:It's still pointless. (3, Funny)

Grimbleton (1034446) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467025)

Hear that guys, x0d's brother HAD TO SELL HIS, time to pack up and move on, tablets are done.

#1 Thing Wrong With The New iPad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39466971)

It's not an Android.

Obligatory Troll Post (0)

epp_b (944299) | more than 2 years ago | (#39466979)

What's not to like: it's an iPad.

Re:Obligatory Troll Post (1)

Microlith (54737) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467047)

That's not a troll post.

I like the hardware of the iPad, but by virtue of being an iPad it runs an OS that forcibly puts you on the outside of its security model, trusting only the platform vendor.

So yeah, I don't like it because it's an iPad. I'd also dislike it if it were crippled in the way that ASUS and Motorola lock down their tablet bootloaders and force you to surrender your warranty before you can do as you wish.

What's wrong with it? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467029)

Apple's pricetag, Apple's walled guarden, Apple fanboys, Apple's arbitrary rules, Apple's $100 pricetag to make apps for your own private use...

Re:What's wrong with it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467299)

The pricetag? Where else can you find a device with those specs, or even similar specs, for less money?

You wanted high-res screens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467043)

The battery Watt/hours doubled as a consequence. So, it's a touch heavier. This are minor complaints being turned into mountains because there is essentially little else about which to complain.

This is like bitching that a sports car uses more fuel than an economy car.

you know "Cash for Gold"? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467081)

That latest South Park episode which castigates home shopping channels that sell worthless jewellery at high prices to old people?

I would argue that Apple does exactly the same with its iPads. Sure, it has to improve the technique to sell to people who are mentally sharper, but the result is the same.

Libertarianism at work.

How to feel better owning an obsolete product... (2, Funny)

urbanriot (924981) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467091)

... justify to everyone else that the new product is actually worse than the previous iteration. (I own an iPad 2 so this works for me!)

Re:How to feel better owning an obsolete product.. (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467159)

I bought a ipad 2 just a few days ago. Nothing on the ipad 3 could justify the higher price point to me. Plus I was able to get a like new one used from a guy on craigs list trying to raise money for the new ipad. $250.00 for a 32 gig not 3g was a fair price, and a lot cheaper than a ipad3 that has marginal improvements.

Exactly! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467095)

Can't have cake and eat too is a missing feature. Time machine still just a horribly misleading feature only available on Macs. While holding and looking in mirror, I still see a nerd staring back.

personally (0)

nimbius (983462) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467101)

the fact that the manufacturing process has involved two plant explosions that have crippled or killed at least a dozen people. the past suicides and slave labor practices have also prevented me from buying apple products in general.
no user servicable battery, but thats a non-issue for most mac fans so ill leave it be. its also a first-world problem unrelated to my original assertion

Fruit ninja for the first world comes at the expense of grinding poverty and human misery. Its not part of the economic model generally.

Re:personally (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467147)

"but thats a non-issue for most mac fans so ill leave it be."

It's proven to be a non issue to everyone. I know fo iphone 2's that are still in service with the origional battery. I have a 3G here that I am prepping for sale that STILL has full battery life after 3.5 years.

I can understand coming from crap phones like Nokia and Motorola that have batteries that need to be replaced yearly (I went through 3 batteries on my Razr, and 2 Batteries on my Nokia E62.)

But honestly, battery tech on the apple devices and some of the android phones are a lot better than the garbage batteries we all were used to from the past.

Replaceable battery is a non issue on ANY phone unless the phone was made to crap standards with junk battery packs.

That answers my question. (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467115)

They used the exact same super easy to break digitizer glass.

They really need to go back to the 2X thicker ipad 1 glass. The ipad 2 is incredibly delicate due to the much thinner glass. In fact you can feel it flex while using the ipad 2.

As if Apple products alone have "problems" (5, Interesting)

Cheech Wizard (698728) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467125)

It is so rare that I buy any device (or even furniture, for that matter) which is perfect that I'm surprised when I buy something, anything, which I have absolutely no "Had they...", or "They should have..." comments. I read the article before it was posted here. It's just another bit of "journalism" to fill some space. As I look around my home, there are few things I can not come up with some complaint about, no matter how small. I bought an iPad 2 but read about the "next" iPad a day later and the prediction of a better display. So - I called Apple and cancelled the order. It was too late. BUT - They paid for return shipping and refunded my money. When this iPad came out I pre-ordered. So many of my friends with an iPad liked them so much I was pretty convinced I'd like it and I do. The stuff in the article is what it is. You can't please everyone all of the time. Me? No problems. WiFi - Works fine. Charges up fine. It does everything I *expect* it to do, and does it well. It may not be *perfect*, but there are few things in my life which I have bought that were *perfect*, and being in my 60's that's saying something.

Know this is offtopic but... (0)

neo8750 (566137) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467131)

What is a good android tablet? take consideration of price and useability. I'm serious btw

Re:Know this is offtopic but... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467231)

I would go with Motorola Xoom, which I have. I think Motorola might have another one out too by now. Key thing (Google bought Motorola Mobility), I had the Xoom since release and its 4.0 update was exquisite. I've been using it every day since release and I love it. I would look into Motorola first before going somewhere else well because Google bought em.

This one is easy, and I'm not trolling/turfing/etc (1)

landofcleve (1959610) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467137)

It's made by Apple, and has iOS on it. Are people not allowed to dislike these things for the aesthetic reasons, while other people like it for aesthetic reasons?

Made by Samsung (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467167)

Display, Processor, Chips, Battery, ...But hey, It has an Apple logo!

Re:Made by Samsung (0)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467343)

Display, Processor, Chips, Battery, ...But hey, It has an Apple logo!

Do you make similar complaints about Dell or HP computers?

Let me know when it can compile. (2, Insightful)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 2 years ago | (#39467195)

I'm not interested in a computer that can't compile. I deal with it on my iPhone because it's a phone ( but it's really a computer that's faster than my 10yo box), but I'm not going to buy a Mac and a $99 development license just to make a simple RPG assistant (I've been making them with JavaScript as a result; at least they didn't strip all programs that can interpret code).

what's not to like? (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 2 years ago | (#39467243)

a DRM'd POS w/no SDHC or USB? yep, that's not to like

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