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Ouya Consoles Will Start Shipping On December 28th

timothy posted about 2 years ago | from the did-you-bet-correctly? dept.

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sfcrazy writes "Ouya has stuck to its deadlines. The team has posted an update on the official blog that the units will start shipping on the scheduled date of December 28th. These units are for those developers who backed the project on Kickstarter. There is some surprise for developers with this console. 'What we didn't tell you was that the advance dev consoles you ordered are pretty special – you'll know what I mean when you open yours. They're rare drops. :P,' says the official post."

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Suck it down (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150071)

Suck it down all of you that claimed the Ouya would be vaporware!

Re:Suck it down (4, Insightful)

Vanderhoth (1582661) | about 2 years ago | (#42150115)

I orderd one and am looking forward to getting it, but let's not count our eggs before they hatch.

Re:Suck it down (5, Funny)

xstonedogx (814876) | about 2 years ago | (#42150941)

It's perfectly fine to count eggs before they hatch. I have a dozen in my fridge right now. They look delicious. In fact, I hope they don't hatch, because I'm really craving eggs, and not chickens. Now, counting *chickens* before they hatch on the other hand...

Re:Suck it down (2)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | about 2 years ago | (#42151089)

It's perfectly fine to count eggs before they hatch. I have a dozen in my fridge right now. They look delicious. In fact, I hope they don't hatch, because I'm really craving eggs, and not chickens. Now, counting *chickens* before they hatch on the other hand...

And I don't even want them one day closer to hatching when I buy them. Doesn't it just mess up your mood when you crack an egg and it has some blood formed?

Re:Suck it down (1)

NFN_NLN (633283) | about 2 years ago | (#42152029)

And I don't even want them one day closer to hatching when I buy them. Doesn't it just mess up your mood when you crack an egg and it has some blood formed?

If there's JUST blood you're eating it too soon... wait until it is balut... a real delicacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_(egg) [wikipedia.org]

Re:Suck it down (4, Funny)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about 2 years ago | (#42151745)

In fact, I hope they don't hatch, because I'm really craving eggs, and not chickens.

You're clearly not pro-life.

Re:Suck it down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150393)

Suck it down all of you that claimed the Ouya would be vaporware!

I don't believe anyone said that they are vaporware.
The arguments was -- they may either under-deliver on the specs or go above the $99 cost making it. It seemed pretty convincing to me (in the previous slashdot discussions)

Let's see where it goes

There is always a possibility they will run out of money before they ship all of them.

Re:Suck it down (4, Interesting)

fiannaFailMan (702447) | about 2 years ago | (#42150541)

Suck it down all of you that claimed the Ouya would be vaporware!

I don't believe anyone said that they are vaporware.
  The arguments was -- they may either under-deliver on the specs or go above the $99 cost making it. It seemed pretty convincing to me (in the previous slashdot discussions)

Let's see where it goes

There is always a possibility they will run out of money before they ship all of them.

Quite. Here's another /. prediction that we all remember well:

Raise your hand if you have iTunes ...

Raise your hand if you have a FireWire port ...

Raise your hand if you have both ...

Raise your hand if you have $400 to spend on a cute Apple device ...

There is Apple's market. Pretty slim, eh? I don't see many sales in the future of iPod.

What the fuck is it with /. that attracts so many pessimistic know-it-alls who have to piss on everything on the day of its launch?

How the hell do you know how much money they've got? STFU.

Re:Suck it down (1)

gagol (583737) | about 2 years ago | (#42150637)

Would you buy a newspaper that tells you everything is okay? Same apply here. People reacts much more to pessimistics news than optimispics ones and most people uses it to get more attention with their little unimportant pathetic post. For a good laugh, look for "2012" on above top secret...

Re:Suck it down (1)

epyT-R (613989) | about 2 years ago | (#42151971)

Actually if you'd get your head out of that pop dichotomy there, you'd realize reality is what it is. it is not 'positive' or 'negative.' Everyone has different expectations and some are harder to please than others. People who label hard to please people as 'negative', are really the insecure ones because they let others' judgements affect their own perceptions.

Re:Suck it down (1)

dadioflex (854298) | about 2 years ago | (#42153373)

Actually if you'd get your head out of that pop dichotomy there, you'd realize reality is what it is. it is not 'positive' or 'negative.' Everyone has different expectations and some are harder to please than others. People who label hard to please people as 'negative', are really the insecure ones because they let others' judgements affect their own perceptions.

Can't say I understand why you're being so mean with your response, but you're ignoring what he said and making an entirely separate point. What he said was perfectly correct. People, all people, are hard-wired to react more strongly to negative views than to positive ones. It's how insular cultures develop through self-selection bias because people don't like to hear that they're doing something wrong, and at the other end of the spectrum it's why nobody is sure how to react if you run into a room and tell them everything is fine, whereas running in shouting FIRE has a more pronounced effect.

Re:Suck it down (3, Funny)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about 2 years ago | (#42150771)

Not for nothin', but months ago I posted that MS & other console makers should be worried, "cuz Ouya gonna getcha'". And that post got modded +5 Comedian.

I am waiting for my apology...

Re:Suck it down (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42152993)

Not for nothin', but months ago I posted that MS & other console makers should be worried, "cuz Ouya gonna getcha'". And that post got modded +5 Comedian.

I am waiting for my apology...

You are the first person I've ever seen complain about getting modded UP.

Re:Suck it down (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about 2 years ago | (#42153015)

Not for nothin', but months ago I posted that MS & other console makers should be worried, "cuz Ouya gonna getcha'". And that post got modded +5 Comedian.

I am waiting for my apology...

You are the first person I've ever seen complain about getting modded UP.

I'm never happy. It got the mod for suggesting that the Ouya was to be taken seriously. This sounded like a good idea, still does. Give me a cheap, easy to play alternative, and I'll plunk down my $99. Ask me to invest more than that for any system that's going to be obsolete in a short span of time, I'll take a pass. This has a good chance of being a game changer, imo.

Re:Suck it down (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about 2 years ago | (#42150815)

Note that the iPod didn't really take off until Apple replaced the Firewire port and ported iTunes to Windows. Before that, it was pretty accurate.

Re:Suck it down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42151987)

Remember, initially Apple refused to make a port of the drivers for Windows. It was hackers who made the first Windows drivers and IIRC, Apple threatened them legally. They were attracted not to the crappy UI but to the large HD that the device offered.
 
So the prediction GP posted was incredibly accurate, and if not for hacker helping sales going against the mac only vision of the almighty Oz...er...Jobs, who knows if Apple would exists, in it's current form, today.

Re:Suck it down (1)

MBCook (132727) | about 2 years ago | (#42152123)

The first iPods were just FireWire hard drives. There was nothing special to them. As long as you had software that could update the library file to make the thing recognize music, you could run it from Windows. I remember that there was at least 2 or 3 third party programs you could buy at a computer store to let you use your iPod on a PC.

I don't remember anyone being sued over it.

Re:Suck it down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42151361)

Well, as long as we're being assholes...where the hell do you get off telling someone else to STFU? Your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's here on Slashdot.

Re:Suck it down (1)

Fred Ferrigno (122319) | about 2 years ago | (#42152131)

People forget what the first generation iPod was like. It wasn't the instant hit that Apple is now know for. It was clunky, expensive, and Mac only. It was only in later generations that Apple improved the design, cut the price, and sold a lot of units.

Re:Suck it down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42152837)

>What the fuck is it with /. that attracts so many pessimistic know-it-alls who have to piss on everything

You're talking about a self-selecting group who advocate for one operating system over another, one device over another, merely based on philosophy.

They haven't figured out yet that you can use BOTH operating systems, or multiple, or have whatever device you want. It's all about Apple is Evil, Microsoft is the Devil, blah blah.

So you're surprised when they piss all over a game console? If it isn't GPL'd and run Linux, you're talking to a black hole.

Re:Suck it down (1)

dbIII (701233) | about 2 years ago | (#42152999)

No, you've got it wrong. We use several, but we don't have to like them all. I've even got a Mac, turned off, sitting just to the right of the screen I can see this text on.

Re: A good question (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about 2 years ago | (#42153483)

What the fuck is it with /. that attracts so many pessimistic know-it-alls who have to piss on everything on the day of its launch?

. Good question. I've had experience with people like that, it's easier for people to tear an idea (or person) down, it's harder, or not in line with their wanrs, to build an idea or person up. Human nature being what it is, you get those types in life.

Re:Suck it down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42153497)

It's more the ignorance and solipsism I dislike, i.e. I don't like this so I doubt anyone else will. Outside of some niche companies, I don't see a consumer revolution being headed by people who won't buy a toaster that can't be rooted - even though a chunk of those people probably are script jockies who think that weak typing is the result of too much time spent playing CS.

Re:Suck it down (2)

NothingMore (943591) | about 2 years ago | (#42150473)

I wouldn't jump the gun on this yet. While it is a really promising sign that devkits are making their way out, the post on Ouya's site has something quite concerning. "The dev consoles aren’t cheap for us to make." No one claimed they couldn't make this console. Most of the issues brought up was that people doubted that they would able to make it cheap enough to meet a $100 price tag (dev kits were $699+ each).

What rare drops means (5, Funny)

GoodNewsJimDotCom (2244874) | about 2 years ago | (#42150195)

While it happens less that uncommonly, we did drop your console onto the floor. They won't work for average users, but we think that due to being developers, you could fix them. Thanks.

I'm interested in seeing how this will turn out. How is this console different than hooking up your smart phone(same processor right?) to your television and bluetoothing in PS3 controllers? When I first heard of this console, this is what everyone talked it was analogous to.

Re:What rare drops means (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150295)

I think they dropped trou and dropped a huge turd in every box, and then sealed them up tightly! Then, took off with all the Kickstarter money to the Caymans.

Re:What rare drops means (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150831)

That would be even better than the puto router.

Re:What rare drops means (3, Informative)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42150601)

How is this console different than hooking up your smart phone(same processor right?) to your television and bluetoothing in PS3 controllers?

No 2-year cellular contract, and no worry that a particular brand of phone or an Android system update will change the way Bluetooth works so as to make the application stop working. For example, the Wii Remote app [google.com] is not compatible with HTC or Samsung handsets nor with Android 4.2.

Re:What rare drops means (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42152647)

Most everyone will have identical hardware. The interface is built by them, and they've partnered with groups like XBMC to make sure things work nicely. They'll be offering a store, where all applications must offer a free-to-play experience, if only for full functioning demo purposes. You know software and accessories made for the thing will work with the thing.

There are lots of reasons people like consoles, and most of them apply here.

Re:What rare drops means (2)

White Flame (1074973) | about 2 years ago | (#42150715)

My bet is on "Hand-crafted workmanship! (we had to manually solder extra jumper wires in these units to fix early production bugs)"

28th of december? (-1)

Kergan (780543) | about 2 years ago | (#42150203)

I beg to ask... Who schedules to ship a new product, especially one like this, immediately after Christmas?!? Either you plan to ship several weeks before Christmas for shoppers to buy it, or you ship several weeks later when people return from whatever type of vacation they took. Definitely not during that week of each year, between Christmas and New Years Eve, when potential customers already have made their Christmas purchases and occasionally maxed out their credit card, and potential reviewers are skying nowhere near their editors.

Re:28th of december? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150241)

Er, they're shipping to DEVELOPERS. The general release date for normal game players is later...

Re:28th of december? (3, Informative)

Randwulf (997659) | about 2 years ago | (#42150243)

These are just for Developers. The backers are are supposed to get them in March.

Re:28th of december? (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about 2 years ago | (#42150245)

Err, did you bother to read... anything?
They're not shipping units for sale, they're shipping dev units to people that backed them on Kickstarter. These units will almost all be going to the people who posted the money, not given away as gifts. The commercial product is still not yet for sale.

Re:28th of december? (1)

Kergan (780543) | about 2 years ago | (#42150351)

Err, did you bother to read... anything?

Evidently not enough, lol. I stuck to the misleading title and went... wow!

Re:28th of december? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150259)

It's just for those who donated.

Re:28th of december? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150279)

The units are for people who have already bought it via Kickstarter.

$800 Dev consoles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150485)

When you charge $800 per device, there won't be much of a Christmas rush anyways.

Re:28th of december? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 years ago | (#42150551)

I beg to ask... Who schedules to ship a new product, especially one like this, immediately after Christmas?!? Either you plan to ship several weeks before Christmas for shoppers to buy it, or you ship several weeks later when people return from whatever type of vacation they took. Definitely not during that week of each year, between Christmas and New Years Eve, when potential customers already have made their Christmas purchases and occasionally maxed out their credit card, and potential reviewers are skying nowhere near their editors.

If word got out that Zynga got one, their stock price might (only saying might) slow its skid.

Re:28th of december? (0)

epyT-R (613989) | about 2 years ago | (#42152011)

Most developers would love to spend christmas day hacking a new piece of hardware.. as a 6 digit UI slashdot user you should know this.

Re:28th of december? (1)

JayAEU (33022) | about 2 years ago | (#42153241)

as a 5 digit UI slashdot user I can't wait to get it in the mail!

Ouija Consoles Will Start Shipping on December 28 (2)

ShogunTux (1236014) | about 2 years ago | (#42150217)

Am I the only one who misread that as ouija consoles, and thought that the occult were finally getting involved in the video gaming industry directly?

Re:Ouija Consoles Will Start Shipping on December (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about 2 years ago | (#42150271)

That was my first thought, as I hadn't heard of Ouya before this. I was wondering how they managed to make a console out of a Ouija board. A tormented spirit in every box!

Re:Ouija Consoles Will Start Shipping on December (1)

ShogunTux (1236014) | about 2 years ago | (#42150345)

Well, if it would have been that, they totally screwed up the release date.

Any true occult console would have set their release date one week earlier. ;)

Luigi board (3, Funny)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42150623)

I was wondering how they managed to make a console out of a Ouija board.

And I thought Nintendo would be the first console maker to ship a Luigi board.

Re:Luigi board (1)

ShogunTux (1236014) | about 2 years ago | (#42150775)

Mama mia!

Oy vey! Consoles Will Start Shipping! (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 2 years ago | (#42150779)

. . . what a cute console name for an expression you could use when you lose a game.

Re:Oy vey! Consoles Will Start Shipping! (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about 2 years ago | (#42153307)

The correct pronunciation is "whee-ya", turns out. I thought it rhymed with "boo-ya". http://www.ouya.tv/ [www.ouya.tv]

Are these basically android 'desktops'? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150365)

Would make a nice standalone xbmc appliance if you could add more internal storage.

Re:Are these basically android 'desktops'? (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | about 2 years ago | (#42151465)

There are many Android-based "mini PC" devices; they are just a tad bigger than a flash drive, take microSD cards, and plug straight to a TV's HDMI. They're usually in the $60-$80 range (keyboard and mouse not included).

Re:Are these basically android 'desktops'? (1)

bfandreas (603438) | about 2 years ago | (#42152237)

Basically yes, they are.
But these have the Tegra3 T33 SoC. Which are 4 core + "companion core" A9 Cortexes. Which is a top shelf SoC with a capable GPU. Judging by what I get on my tablet I would say you can get HD games with graphics comparable to a PS2. Propably even better if optimized.

Has anyone bothered yet to compare it to a Wii U? It doesn't have the Wii U's party trick but I wouldn't be surprised if it were similar when it comes to performance.
Also Android is a plattform that doesn't require any Sonyesque programming tricks...

Re:Are these basically android 'desktops'? (1)

bfandreas (603438) | about 2 years ago | (#42152193)

We've thought about something similar. It's cheap, obviously doesn't need any fans or other BS and could be the last system standing.

With any luck it could be a nice monitoring/xterm achinelet to stick into the server room.
Personally I'll try to get a development machine to dick around with. It's got nice hardware and they chose to stay away from those nasty background services that bog down most Android devices.

If they get those things into Walmart and other cheapsters then they could sell like hotcakes. The Tegra T33 is a very capable SoC which has only the problem of not having an UMTS/LTE module. Which isn't actually needed in a game console anyway. That's the famous 4 core + companion core that got built into the Transformer Prime Infinity.

And since all games for it are required to also have some sort of freemium model we could be in for a treat. Expect humble Ouya bundles galore. And there are a crapton of really premium Android games out there. Should be cheap to port. If porting is needed then that'd mostly be adding controller support that half of the older games don't have. I'm looking at you, Samurai II: Vengeance and Galaxy on Fire.

Re:Are these basically android 'desktops'? (1)

bfandreas (603438) | about 2 years ago | (#42152197)

Also I wouldn't be surprised if GoG would offer some of their DOS Games + DosBox for that thing. Wohoo! Master of Magic!
Also Amiga Emulators and MAME.
What a clever little thing.

The Ouya could be disruptive. Big time. (4, Insightful)

Qbertino (265505) | about 2 years ago | (#42150567)

I give Ouya a solid chance to disrupt console gaming and living-room computing on a totally new level.
The two simple facts that it is a) dirt cheap and b) anybody who has one can develop for it, carries some hefty oomph that is probably already making some Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo execs getting nervous as we speak. I say it is no coincidence that Nintendo has anounced their Wii U Devkit will be free of charge for anybody who wants one.

If this baby gains critical mass, which I hope and expect it will, it could very well become the best selling piece of electronics hardware in history. Bulk produce the Ouya beyond a few million pieces and you have a console with solid general purpose computing capabilities that most of earths population can afford. If that isn't killer potential, I don't know what is.

My 2 cents.

Re:The Ouya could be disruptive. Big time. (-1, Flamebait)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | about 2 years ago | (#42150767)

Go home. You are drunk.

It needs retail presence. Once that happens, maybe. It all depends if the package actually comes together. If it sucks, I think it'll go the way of the RZone and the game.com.

If they execute, then sure. But you haven't even seen one.

Re:The Ouya could be disruptive. Big time. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42150769)

Nice troll. BTW, there's a group of us with sub-100,000 UIDs that only post troll remarks now (serious discussion has moved elsewhere; but that's a topic for a different message) -- although the important thing is to keep it on-topic, no easy flame-bait, and try to get modded up.

Yours is totally in-line with what we do, so join in! (this goes for anyone else -- but remember, be creative, not crass. The joy is in watching people lose their minds either agreeing or throwing a tantrum disagreeing, while your message is completely level)

Happy Trolls!

Sturgeon's law: 90% of games are crap (4, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42150859)

anybody who has one can develop for it

Which I'm told will lead to over 90 percent of releases being crap [tvtropes.org] , just like on Android and iOS. The North American video game market went into a recession in 1983 because too many companies were making crappy video games. When introducing the NES in the fourth quarter of 1985, Nintendo needed some way to reassure toy retailers that 90 percent of shelf space wouldn't be occupied by exactly what Theodore Sturgeon predicted, and the lockout chip was Nintendo's way of doing this.

On the one hand, Ouya has no disc slot and is thus not limited by physical shelf space. On the other hand, it's still limited by screen space above the fold of the list of games in each genre.

Re:Sturgeon's law: 90% of games are crap (3, Informative)

Kjella (173770) | about 2 years ago | (#42150987)

On the one hand, Ouya has no disc slot and is thus not limited by physical shelf space. On the other hand, it's still limited by screen space above the fold of the list of games in each genre.

Order by popularity and the problem will mostly sort itself out, like you say over 90 percent of the releases on Android and iOS are crap but 99 percent of the buyers don't see them. They see Angry Birds and whatever else is in the top 100 or so per category, what's featured you can have a process for or they've been reading some game review and actually look for something that's not crap. Good luck "bootstrapping" the Ouya market though, it's a classic chicken and egg situation where you either need to bring a lot of heavy hitting games or a rabid following of fans. Otherwise this could be another Firefly, the fans love it but most people don't want it.

Re:Sturgeon's law: 90% of games are crap (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42151435)

what's featured you can have a process for or they've been reading some game review and actually look for something that's not crap.

I'd be interested to see what review process they have to find what to feature. Because if the selection in "featured new releases" is crap, users' opinion of the whole selection will be crap.

it's a classic chicken and egg situation where you either need to bring a lot of heavy hitting games or a rabid following of fans.

Yeah, I'd be interested to see how they plan to keep it from being another GP2X or Media Center PC: something that isn't commercially successful except among a statistically insignificant user base.

Otherwise this could be another Firefly, the fans love it but most people don't want it.

I assume you're talking about Mutant Enemy [wikipedia.org] , not Owl City [wikipedia.org] or Rammstein [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Sturgeon's law: 90% of games are crap (2)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 2 years ago | (#42152827)

On the one hand, Ouya has no disc slot and is thus not limited by physical shelf space. On the other hand, it's still limited by screen space above the fold of the list of games in each genre.

Order by popularity and the problem will mostly sort itself out, like you say over 90 percent of the releases on Android and iOS are crap but 99 percent of the buyers don't see them. They see Angry Birds and whatever else is in the top 100 or so per category, what's featured you can have a process for or they've been reading some game review and actually look for something that's not crap. Good luck "bootstrapping" the Ouya market though, it's a classic chicken and egg situation where you either need to bring a lot of heavy hitting games or a rabid following of fans. Otherwise this could be another Firefly, the fans love it but most people don't want it.

Then comes the other problem - discovery. Just like the Android and iOS stores, newcomers who aren't the first movers will get stuck at the very bottom of the list, so either the list stays stagnant because users aren't finding the new stuff, or only the ones who could afford a marketing budget and buy premium placement.

And it's such a big problem that Apple had to buy a company (Chomp) who specializes in app searches, and people complain Google's search isn't that great either (ironically).

Re:Sturgeon's law: 90% of games are crap (2)

sunspot42 (455706) | about 2 years ago | (#42152357)

I think you've nailed it - the lack of any sort of quality control will cause this thing to flame out pretty quickly. The hardware also strikes me as ridiculously anemic.

However, I could see both Apple and Amazon releasing similar devices, based on Apple's iOS and Amazon's customized version of Android respectively, and tied to their existing online stores. They could sign deals with top developers to produce software - software that could also run on their tablets in theory - and act as a filter to keep their game stores from overflowing with crap.

Their gadgets would have to sport more advanced hardware than the Ouya, but both Apple and Amazon should be capable of convincing enough people to shell out, say, $200-$300 on a console / media center to make such a platform viable.

If Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo aren't very nervous, they should be. The barriers to entry in the console business have clearly gotten a lot lower in the past five years, and there are at least a couple of large players now in a position to challenge them quite effectively without investing the billions MS, Sony and Nintendo have spent establishing their current position.

Come to think of it, Samsung is another potential threat. They don't have the online distribution power of an Apple or Amazon, but they could churn out the hardware cheaper than anyone, and they know Android inside and out.

Re:Sturgeon's law: 90% of games are crap (2)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42152399)

The hardware also strikes me as ridiculously anemic.

More so than the Wii U with its three PowerPC G3 cores clocked at less than twice the Wii's 729 MHz? (See yesterday's Slashdot story [slashdot.org] .)

Re:Sturgeon's law: 90% of games are crap (1)

Waccoon (1186667) | about 2 years ago | (#42152989)

90% of releases on all platforms are crap.

The question is whether the 10% of good releases will actually be worth it to bother, or even if it's easy enough to find them in the first place (given how bad the new Playstation Store is, I find it amazing that anyone buys games from there at all, let alone manages to find decent games).

Re:The Ouya could be disruptive. Big time. (1)

alvinrod (889928) | about 2 years ago | (#42151141)

Longshot.

A) If this were the only criteria, then Sony, Mircosoft, and Nintendo would have already been replaced by the existing cheap products that are already on the market. This is obviously better than what's come before it, but I doubt it's going to change much.

B) This assumes that first of all, a whole lot of people are going to be excited to develop for it. Most who buy it won't do any development at all. Second it assumes that 95% of the stuff that actually does get developed for this won't be crap.

I honestly don't think that this will have much lasting impact on the industry as it exists now. I wouldn't mind being wrong, but I have some doubts about this turning into the wild success that you think it will become. It's not going to get the big exclusives that a lot of people want, so this thing isn't going to be replacing the incumbants any time soon. I have a feeling it will be used mostly for casual games and emulators.

Re:The Ouya could be disruptive. Big time. (1)

orient (535927) | about 2 years ago | (#42151339)

If this baby gains critical mass, which I hope and expect it will, it could very well become the best selling piece of electronics hardware in history. Bulk produce the Ouya beyond a few million pieces and you have a console with solid general purpose computing capabilities that most of earths population can afford. If that isn't killer potential, I don't know what is.

Then the patent infringement law suits will pour in and kill the product.

Re:The Ouya could be disruptive. Big time. (1)

Yunzil (181064) | about 2 years ago | (#42151445)

If this baby gains critical mass, which I hope and expect it will

It won't.

Unless... (2)

Jafafa Hots (580169) | about 2 years ago | (#42151545)

they can afford an ad campaign in the tens of millions of dollars, then no, it won;t disrupt anything, because nobody will have heard of it.

Just like now, where nobody has heard of it. Do Wii and Xbox users know about this?

Know, they don't, and they probably never will.

Development does not make a product. Advertising does.
Having been in the toy and gaming industry, I know that generally the product is advertised first, and only AFTER a certain minimum order from retailers is it then finalized and rushed into production.

If nobody buys it, it never gets made in the first place beyong prototype.

Xbox, Playstation, Wii, we like to think of these as tech items or electronics.

They aren't. They are product, they are toys. They sell when kids see ads and pester their parents. They sell when people see their neighbor playing one and they want to compete.

Re:The Ouya could be disruptive. Big time. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42152447)

I say it is no coincidence that Nintendo has anounced their Wii U Devkit will be free of charge for anybody who wants one.

Except that the dev kits aren't free.

Re:The Ouya could be disruptive. Big time. (1)

Osgeld (1900440) | about 2 years ago | (#42152781)

the average console player is proud of the fact he plugged a cable into a box, development is a sideshow, not a feature

Re:The Ouya could be disruptive. Big time. (1)

dadioflex (854298) | about 2 years ago | (#42153429)

You'll be able to buy a Wii Mini for $99 soon if rumours are true, and you can get a $99 Xbox 360 with loads of strings attached. The price point is meaningless. Brand is everything. There are already dozens of handheld Android gaming devices available for peanuts but none of them has reached any kind of critical mass. The Dingoo A320, a proprietary non-Android device (which can run Linux), has sold over a million units and is a big deal still in handheld emulation circles - I doubt even a fraction of the Slashdot crowd has heard of it.

I hope the Ouya backers eventually get their consoles, but a mass market Android console is going to be a moving target. Next year a rival to Ouya comes out that plays all that year's hot new games and takes advantage of whatever developments there have been in Android. And the same thing the year after that and the year after that. Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony spend billions promoting their consoles, losing money hand over fist for a couple of years and making it back in the long run. Well, Nintendo not so much but even they dig themselves a hole with their advertising budget even if they're selling at profit right from the outset.

neat (2)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 2 years ago | (#42150635)

This thing sounds great. Especially if it can run XBMC... that would make it incredibly useful. But their site is in terrible need of a FAQ.
Can it decode x264?
Can it play full 1080p video?
can you use multiple controllers?
Can you have peripherals? Specifically a remote?
Does it have a network connection? Wifi?

Re:neat (4, Informative)

ThatsMyNick (2004126) | about 2 years ago | (#42150737)

Yes, standard files are hardware decrypted.
Yes.
Yes.
Not sure, how do you want to connect it? It does have an Infrared sensor and bluetooth. A remote is sold separately (which I presume works on IR, but not if it is hackable).
Yes, ethernet, wifi, bluetooth are build-in.

Re:neat (1)

MachDelta (704883) | about 2 years ago | (#42150819)

Suddenly I am very interested. A cheap HTPC/streaming solution would be perfect for my needs. The fact that I could load android games (and emulators!) on it would just be gravy.

Re:neat (1)

darkain (749283) | about 2 years ago | (#42150801)

x264? Unsure.
1080p? Yes.
multiple controllers? Yes.
peripherals? Most likely anything supported by Android, but unsure.
Network? Wifi, Bluetooth, Ethernet.

Re:neat (1)

loufoque (1400831) | about 2 years ago | (#42150851)

x264 is an encoder, not an actual format.
I still don't understand why the scene puts it in their file names.

"Encoded with x264" as a mark of quality (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42150879)

I still don't understand why the scene puts [the name of a particular AVC encoder] in their file names.

For the same reason that MP3 scene releases may have had "LAME" in the file name: to ensure listeners that a group's encode wasn't done with some crappy encoder like Xing or BladeEnc, so as not to draw a nuke and proper later.

Re:"Encoded with x264" as a mark of quality (1)

loufoque (1400831) | about 2 years ago | (#42150975)

That kind of information should be in the file metadata. It could also just be mentioned in the NFO.

Re:"Encoded with x264" as a mark of quality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42151193)

That kind of information should be in the file metadata. It could also just be mentioned in the NFO.

One could make the argument that the file name itself is metadata.

Re:neat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42151795)

Same reason they put XviD on releases encoded with XviD and not MPEG-4 Part 2 ASP?

Re:neat (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42153179)

More people have heard of x264 than H.264 (the actual format x264 is used for). H.264 has the best file size to video quality ratio out there currently, at least in the consumer market. But it does come down to the person configuring the encoder. There's a few communities out there that work together to try and put together the best multi-purpose configurations, have seen entire 45m TV shows reduced to just under 200MB while still being virtually indistinguishable from a cable TV stream. If you don't mind only being able to watch video on a PC, can get the file size even lower without hurting quality enough to be visible from the couch, but that does after all require proper updated codecs which most people don't have installed (most of those codec packs are at least a year behind).

Re:neat (2)

BeaverCleaver (673164) | about 2 years ago | (#42151139)

A Raspberry Pi can.

Kit vs. ready to run (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42151491)

Does the Raspberry Pi ship with a gamepad or even a standard case? Perhaps the advantage of the Ouya is that it comes "ready to run": already in a case, with a gamepad, and with a download store installed. It's like the difference between an R/C plane kit [philshobbyshop.com] and a ready-to-fly plane [philshobbyshop.com] .

Re:Kit vs. ready to run (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 2 years ago | (#42152073)

That's important... but what's more important to me is this thing is DESIGNED to do what I want to do with it. I've been doing the HTPC thing since the 90s, when all I had was a very expensive soundcard with a digital channel to my stereo. All this time it's evolved and served me well. But the fact of the matter is my HTPC is by far the most powerful PC in my house now. More processing power, more memory, better video card, everything. I'm hardly utilizing it's power, but that's what you need when you're doing experimental shit that the PC was never designed to do. There's all sorts of little glitches that aren't show stoppers but are annoying. If I could spend $100, and have something I did't have to fuck with anymore and get to use that computer for something other than streaming video, I'd be in heaven.

What a name... (1)

sixteenbitsamurai (1070810) | about 2 years ago | (#42151105)

Call it trolling if you want, but seriously... where the hell are the damn consonants? All that's in there is that "Y" character that sometimes plays the part of a consonant on weekends.

I'd like to buy a semivowel (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 years ago | (#42151539)

Call it trolling if you want, but seriously... where the hell are the damn consonants?

You could say the same thing about "Wii". Both Y and W are semivowels [wikipedia.org] . On the other hand, you could look at "PS2" and "PSP" and ask where the vowels are. Or you could look at the Xbox 360 and see where Microsoft allegedly stole the name [wikia.com] .

Ouya? (1)

slick7 (1703596) | about 2 years ago | (#42151349)

Big deal, let me know when they get to the Ouzo consoles.

Re:Ouya? (1)

godrik (1287354) | about 2 years ago | (#42151407)

crap, I want a drink now...

English muthafscka do you speak it? (1)

Arker (91948) | about 2 years ago | (#42151519)

There is some surprise for developers with this console.

"There is a surprise" or "there are some surprises" but never "there is some."

Re:English muthafscka do you speak it? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42151687)

There is some surprise for developers with this console.

"There is a surprise" or "there are some surprises" but never "there is some."

There is some gentleman at the door carrying a violin case. He says he wishes to speak with you regarding some finer points of grammar.

Re:English muthafscka do you speak it? (4, Funny)

White Flame (1074973) | about 2 years ago | (#42152429)

Yes, there is some truth in what you say.

Re:English muthafscka do you speak it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42152789)

no one gives a fuck, we all have the basic ability to understand what is being said without having our hand held by a fucking manual and a teacher

404while pre-ordering? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42151585)

Whats really funny is that I get a 404 when trying to preorder, perhaps theyve stopped selling them.

Works Fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42151835)

Just checked. Works fine.

Final specs of the controller? (1)

grumbel (592662) | about 2 years ago | (#42151689)

Have they published final specs for the controller? Last I checked it lacked start/select buttons and featured an unnecessary awkward button labeling and it wasn't clear how the trigger would be setup. Has any of that changed?

Re:Final specs of the controller? (1)

SternisheFan (2529412) | about 2 years ago | (#42153269)

Have they published final specs for the controller? Last I checked it lacked start/select buttons and featured an unnecessary awkward button labeling and it wasn't clear how the trigger would be setup. Has any of that changed?

http://www.ouya.tv/ [www.ouya.tv]

The bare bones site has a video and a pic of the controller.

December 28th (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42152233)

...but of what year?!

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Wow! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42153081)

I can't wait to not-buy it!

But the controllers is horrible (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 years ago | (#42153331)

It's liek somebody took the best parts of a DualShock and a 360 controller and merged them using the device from The Fly.

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