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NVIDIA Tegra Note 7 Tested, Fastest Android 4.3 Slate Under $200

Unknown Lamer posted about a year ago | from the still-waiting-for-pixel-qi dept.

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MojoKid writes "NVIDIA officially took the wraps off of its Tegra Note mobile platform a few weeks back. If you're unfamiliar with the Tegra Note, it's a 7", Android-based tablet, powered by NVIDIA's Tegra 4 SoC. The Tegra Note 7 also marks NVIDIA's second foray into the consumer electronics market, with an in-house designed product; NVIDIA's SHIELD Android gaming device was the first out of the gate earlier this year. Though Tegra Note 7 on the surface may appear to be just another 7-inch slate, sporting a 1280X720 display, it does have NVIDIA's proprietary passive stylus technology on board, very good sounding speakers and an always on HDR camera. It's also one of the fastest Android tablets on the market currently, in the benchmarks. Unlike in NVIDIA's SHIELD device, the Tegra 4 SoC is passively cooled in Tegra Note 7 and is crammed into a thin and light 7" tablet form factor. As a result, the SoC can't hit peak frequencies quite as high as the SHIELD (1.8GHz vs. 1.9GHz), but that didn't hold the Tegra Note 7 back very much. In a few of the CPU-centric and system level tests, the Tegra Note 7 finished at or near the head of the pack, and in the graphics benchmarks, its 72-core GeForce GPU competed very well, and often allowed the $199 Tegra Note 7 to outpace much more expensive devices."

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Slashvertisement Alert!! (1, Informative)

BBF_BBF (812493) | about a year ago | (#45838315)

Wow, an ad for a nVidia product posing as a slashdot article... this is, unfortunately, getting more and more common. :(

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (3, Insightful)

StevenMaurer (115071) | about a year ago | (#45839021)

Do you have evidence that slashdot was paid for this?

If not, this is a product review of a tech toy, which seems perfectly fine for this site.

Believe it or not, it isn't a requirement for all reviews (be they for movies or products) to be entirely negative. When something has much better technical specs at a lower price point, that's something I want to know.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45840885)

It's more likely the other way around. This is an interesting product, far more so than the latest incremental iterations of Surface/iPhone/Pads, which featured in multiple articles on Slashdot's front page.

It's common knowledge that Apple and Microsoft routinely pay for attack postings on Android and Google products. Have you been Scroogled yet?

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (1)

davester666 (731373) | about a year ago | (#45842851)

interesting, except perhaps for the 'always on hdr camera' can't imagine that being helpful to battery life, or your personal privacy. i presume it uploads the video and audio to asn.su.vog

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45843789)

except perhaps for the 'always on hdr camera' can't imagine that being helpful

RTFA noob.

It's the HDR aspect that's always on, not the camera. Basically, it means it saves additional exposures each time you take a pic. You can use the additional data to improve the final image.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45844667)

> RTFA noob.

You must be the noob if you think people RTFA here!

Anyway, summaries are meant to summarize, not mislead. Editors are supposed to spot potentially misleading statements and clarify them. Looks like we're 0 for 3 here.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (1)

davester666 (731373) | about a year ago | (#45850029)

I guess you are referencing 'editors' in the dictionary definition sense. Slashdot editor's intentionally pick submissions that link to the least accurate source material, then make sure the summary misstates the linked material. And few posters even bother to read past the headline.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45849433)

interesting, except perhaps for the 'always on hdr camera' can't imagine that being helpful to battery life, or your personal privacy. i presume it uploads the video and audio to asn.su.vog

I really wish they'd just brand it as "always HDR" rather than "always on HDR". It's shorter *and* less misleading.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | about a year ago | (#45839327)

$200 for a nice tablet is news AND inherently an advertisement.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (1)

default luser (529332) | about a year ago | (#45840445)

It's not a "nice:" tablet, it's a cut-rate excuse to get Tegra 4 in the news. If they had properly outfitted this thing, it would be the same price as the Nexus 7 2013 model (and exactly the same performance, which a shittier screen).

Any tablet that ships in this day-and-age with just 1GB of ram is not "nice." You just try and load more than 4 tabs in your web browser before running out of ram. And while benchmarks don't tend to care about memory capacity, it will certainly make a difference in games (which is the primary focus of this SoC).

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45844687)

Any tablet that ships in this day-and-age with just 1GB of ram is not "nice." You just try and load more than 4 tabs in your web browser before running out of ram.

How sad is that. Ten years ago, if you had even suggested I need 1GB of RAM per browser tab open, I would have said "get real!" once I got over the initial shock.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (not) (4, Insightful)

MojoKid (1002251) | about a year ago | (#45839423)

Yes, and that slashvertisement BS is getting mighty old. It's a legitimate product review that discusses the pluses and minuses of the product. Take time to actually read the content submitted instead of being so judgmental maybe?

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (not) (2)

BBF_BBF (812493) | about a year ago | (#45839637)

Sure, the linked to article is a *real* review. The slashdot summary is not, it reads exactly like an ad, that's what makes it a "Slashvertisement". Too bad it's no longer *news* since the tablet was released in NOVEMBER, over one month ago.

And by calling it a "slashverdtisement" I don't imply that Slashdot is getting paid in any way, I mean that the summary reads more like an ad than a "news" item for nerds.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (not) (2)

MojoKid (1002251) | about a year ago | (#45839919)

The product was released at the end of NOVEMBER and is just now getting out to retail. No need to shout that. And just because an article here speaks to a product's salient features (both good and not so good - lest you forget the lower res display was mentioned too) doesn't make it an advertisement.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45840217)

On a technical level, I'm not sure this really shines a good light on nVidia - their insanely power inefficient Tegra 4 on these benchmarks constantly and significantly trailing the PowerVR SGX54x found in the samsung and apple devices.

And while I understand at a consumer level, an iDevice w/ an A6 costs a lot more (thanks apple tax) - but at a SoC level, nVidia tends to be quite a bit more costly than everyone else... and the Tegra 4 is well known to be an extreme power hog - yet can't even keep up? Not a good sign for nVidia, at all.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | about a year ago | (#45841453)

Wow, an ad for a nVidia product posing as a slashdot article... this is, unfortunately, getting more and more common. :(

If stories about new tech devices isn't what belongs on /. then I don't know what is. You should think a bit more before you just blindly react in a knee jerk fashion. Sure, there are a lot of Slashvertistments these days, but this really isn't one of them. News of the next iPad will be posted as well. Stories about the next great CPUs from AMD and Intel will be too. Here, in the spirit of the holidays, I have a present for you. It's called a clue. Take it in the spirit is offered and then you get a clue.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (1)

BBF_BBF (812493) | about a year ago | (#45844109)

For a product released in late November 2013, this is not a *new* release. New release articles should be posted when the actual item *is* released, not 1.5 months later.

This is not a new release anymore, just a review of the "updated" to v 4.3 android version... maybe you should be the one to get a clue.

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45843945)

Isn't it nice to have slashvertisments from other companies than Apple and Phoronix for a change?

Re:Slashvertisement Alert!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45845043)

Shut up you fucking idiot.

Always-on HDR (4, Informative)

umafuckit (2980809) | about a year ago | (#45838341)

In case you were wondering what always-on HDR actually means: http://androidcommunity.com/nvidia-tegra-4-always-on-hdr-camera-demo-20130320/ [androidcommunity.com] Looks rather nice, actually.

Re:Always-on HDR (0)

Zynder (2773551) | about a year ago | (#45839553)

That article explains nothing. There is no reason to have an always on camera chewing up my already short battery run time. Oh and people complain about this kind of thing with Google Glass and it isn't even always on! This is. Rooting it to disable it would be my first task if I was even bothered to buy one.

Re:Always-on HDR (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | about a year ago | (#45839633)

I suspect what that means is that camera is automatically recording when camera software is running, and you can choose stills or video bits from what it has been recording, while it continues to record. At least that's what would make sense, as such operation does indeed require significant computational power, which appears to be the selling point of the tablet.

It's pretty unlikely that it would be recording when camera software is not running for reasons like battery life and privacy.

Re:Always-on HDR (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839661)

Bold claim. You obviously didn't even read the article. The camera is not always on, it is HDR that is always on when the camera is on...

Re:Always-on HDR (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45845457)

You obviously didn't even read the article.

Y'all must be new here...

Re:Always-on HDR (1)

umafuckit (2980809) | about a year ago | (#45842061)

You've got the wrong idea. I had that idea too until I read the article I linked to. The idea is that the HDR is always on. Not the camera. HDR normally involves taking multiple sequentially images at different exposures and merging them off-line. With this tablet the HDR is somehow done in near-real-time, effectively in parallel. It's pretty cool, since it makes the images look a lot closer to what your eye sees.

Low end SoC's are amazing this year (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year ago | (#45838375)

I got my kids some $59 "iRola" Jelly Bean tablets from nomorerack for Christmas and they're really fantastic for the price, and plenty of machine for kids, and at a price that you can give them to kids. I paid ~$250 for a Nook color a couple years ago and other than the screen quality, these are much better.

Yeah, the LCD viewing angle is old-school but kids don't care - all the games and Netflix work great, and the wireless radios work without complaint. I even snuck some math and foreign language games on there (and the "Kids Place" time limiter).

Re:Low end SoC's are amazing this year (0)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about a year ago | (#45838747)

I got my kids some $59 "iRola" Jelly Bean tablets from nomorerack for Christmas and they're really fantastic for the price, and plenty of machine for kids

Amazing how low you can get the prices when you use children to build gadgets for children.

Child Slave Labor (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839293)

Hey, it's not like they're chained to the workbenches or anything. Oh wait...

Re:Child Slave Labor (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | about a year ago | (#45841467)

If working conditions were that bad in China then people would be committing suicide at factories. Oh wait...

Re:Low end SoC's are amazing this year (1)

couchslug (175151) | about a year ago | (#45840035)

" Amazing how low you can get the prices when you use children to build gadgets for children."

Got a better job to offer those children which won't be displaced by someone else shopping their business to other children?

Unless the NEED for child labor is removed, it's better than starvation. Note that horrid labor conditions are how all developing countries compete until they can compete by other means. That includes the US.

If you have a (practical) alternative, please share it.

Re:Low end SoC's are amazing this year (0)

Burz (138833) | about a year ago | (#45842631)

Starvation?? The planet still produces food surpluses, and some countries (***cough**USA***cough***) throw away 40% of the food they buy at the market/restaurant.

The answer is that you GIVE the food to the children, you economic and moral imbecile. The parent was talking about making gadgets, not tending crops.

Re:Low end SoC's are amazing this year (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45850525)

> Unless the NEED for child labor is removed, it's better than starvation.

There is no NEED for child labor, you libertarian fucktard.

Re:Low end SoC's are amazing this year (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year ago | (#45841353)

Amazing how low you can get the prices when you use children to build gadgets for children.

Don't worry - my 10-year-old daughter has both a job and a side business too. I didn't have a job until I was eleven, so she's ahead of me.

evolutionary development. (2)

Dzimas (547818) | about a year ago | (#45838407)

Company introduces new version of an established form factor, except slightly faster. Not really worthy of mention. The disruptive (or potentially disruptive) products are the ones /. should be covering -- like the tiny new laptop chargers from finsix (complete with built-in USB port so it can charge your phone at the same time). Let's hope for something extremely clever to come out of the upcoming CES show. I'm not holding my breath, though; we may have a decade of iterative improvements in tablet tech ahead of us before the next big hardware shift.

Re:evolutionary development. (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about a year ago | (#45838581)

like the tiny new laptop chargers from finsix

I googled it for everyone:

How it looks [finsix.com]

How it works [technologyreview.com]

Re: evolutionary development. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839187)

Neat stuff. Going to higher frequencies is also how airplanes keep their electronics small and light: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_frequency#400_Hz

Re:evolutionary development. (2)

Em Adespoton (792954) | about a year ago | (#45839191)

How it really works [technologyreview.com]

I had to dig down another layer to discover that they were creating an intelligent amplifier that used asymmetric multilevel outphasing. This is surprisingly similar to the new logic going into cruise control systems (see recent slashdot article) but applied to phasing the amplifier instead of an automotive powertrain. This thing should waste a LOT less energy when "idle" as well -- just running the chip and sensor controlling the phase level.

Re:evolutionary development. (1)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | about a year ago | (#45843479)

why have a power brick at all i its so small that it can probably fit inside the laptop itself? that should be these guy's aim, imo.

Re:evolutionary development. (1)

CowTipperGore (1081903) | about a year ago | (#45847479)

I'm guessing you didn't bother to read anything about the product before posting? I consider hitting a $200 price point with nice hardware very worthy of mention. Also of interest is the high quality stylus support implemented without the need for specialized hardware and the first Android tablet from NVIDIA and their manufacturing model of providing reference models for their partners to brand and sell.

benchmark (3, Interesting)

Bram Stolk (24781) | about a year ago | (#45838595)

It does well for on-screen benchmarks, because of the low resolution of 1280x720.
For on-screen tests, it will have to process fewer pixels than the more expensive models with high-res screens.
This makes it look faster than it is, as you can see by the off-screen benchmark results.

Re:benchmark (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45838737)

> 2014
> 1280x720 resolution
> portraying this tablet as anything other than total garbage

It's not April yet, nVidia. Quit trolling.

Re:benchmark (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | about a year ago | (#45839333)

Did you miss the part where it's $200? 1280x720 still provides a good experience for everything a tablet does.

Re:benchmark (2)

Teckla (630646) | about a year ago | (#45839489)

It does well for on-screen benchmarks, because of the low resolution of 1280x720.

The submitter got the resolution wrong. It's 1280x800, which is actually a quite nice DPI for a 7" device that's only $200.

Re:benchmark (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45844811)

> The submitter got the resolution wrong. It's 1280x800, which is actually a quite nice DPI for a 7" device that's only $200.

Even the Nook HD does 1440x900 for less than $200. This device isn't quite up to par in resolution.

Re: benchmark (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839597)

Its 1280x800. Yes I own the tablet, and the review is pretty accurate. There is a whole lot to like.

Re:benchmark (3, Insightful)

Luckyo (1726890) | about a year ago | (#45839641)

No, it makes it look like it's actually sane in the current "more pixels is better" fad. It prioritizes having a good resolution and computational power to match it, rather than huge resolution and no computational power to support it which is the current fad.

Re: benchmark (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839993)

I bought my Nexus 7 because of the high dpi screen that makes text much easier to read. No way Id buy a 7" tablet with only a 1280 screen these days.

Re: benchmark (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | about a year ago | (#45841543)

I bought my 768p 15" laptop because I could play more than slideshow games on it. No way I'd buy a currently trendy "lol look at my many pixels" device that doesn't offer any significant advantage while effectively hamstringing my ability to use anything that needs computational power to match the pixel count overkill on those devices.

Re: benchmark (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45842517)

Not saying your choices is wrong for you etc. But I have a high-res tablet and for reading books I would not have it any other way. Fonts look like on paper etc. No eye strain etc as with lower res screens

So for me I like super-high-res :)

Re: benchmark (1)

perryizgr8 (1370173) | about a year ago | (#45843493)

i'm saying your choice is wrong because there is nothing better than e-ink for reading books. once you read on a kindle, you dont go to an lcd/oled.

Re: benchmark (1)

adolf (21054) | about a year ago | (#45843783)

I bought my 1920x1200 15" laptop because if I wanted to game on it, it's generally easy enough to make a game run at 960x600...which is fast, adequate, and eliminates the normal pitfalls of scaling by being an integer ratio.

And the rest of the time, the fonts are better.

Re: benchmark (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | about a year ago | (#45845619)

So, how do you like lugging around 4-5 spare batteries and interrupting your gameplay about once an hour?

Re: benchmark (1)

adolf (21054) | about a year ago | (#45848929)

It gets plugged in for gaming. Is electricity scarce where you are?

Re: benchmark (1)

Luckyo (1726890) | about a year ago | (#45849489)

Where and when I use my laptop? Yes, it is. That's why I use a laptop instead of desktop in those situations. My desktop is in every way superior to the best laptop you'll find on the market (except maybe pixel density of screens, which is irrelevant for me anyway).

I had a laptop like yours before. I had to lug around two spare batteries at the very least to get to the sweet spot of three to four hours without charging, and having to shut down the machine to swap batteries was a pain in the ass.

Re: benchmark (1)

adolf (21054) | about a year ago | (#45849547)

It's funny that you know so much about my laptop. (Except for the fact that, you know, you don't.)

You're a bit over-the-top and flippant. It does nobody any service to be so reactionary.

Good day.

two words (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45838669)

main board .. please?

Why "always on"? (0, Troll)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a year ago | (#45838691)

Why would anybody want the video camera on this tablet to be "always on"?

Re:Why "always on"? (4, Funny)

craigminah (1885846) | about a year ago | (#45838709)

This is an NSA-mandated option...

Re:Why "always on"? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45838895)

Why would anybody want the video camera on this tablet to be "always on"?

Always on HDR or High Dynamic Range http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging
Not the camera
basically it takes images so fast it can snap 2 images at the same time

~Loko

Re:Why "always on"? (1)

Em Adespoton (792954) | about a year ago | (#45839215)

Why would anybody want the video camera on this tablet to be "always on"?

Always on HDR or High Dynamic Range http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging [wikipedia.org]
Not the camera
basically it takes images so fast it can snap 2 images at the same time

~Loko

...at different exposure levels.

Actually, this makes a lot of sense -- if your first exposure is REALLY fast, then you get the underexposed image really quickly, and you can use it as an index to build the overexposed image, and interpolate the desired image data from the difference. This should actually be a faster technique than the traditional sensor feedback exposure metering, as you can take your first image as part of the metering process and preserve the data for later use.

Re:Why "always on"? (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#45839225)

basically it takes images so fast it can snap 2 images at the same time

You can do it with one image if you've got access to the raw (more than 8-bit depth) data from the camera.

Re:Why "always on"? (1)

joh (27088) | about a year ago | (#45839261)

basically it takes images so fast it can snap 2 images at the same time

You can do it with one image if you've got access to the raw (more than 8-bit depth) data from the camera.

This still isn't going to give you very much to work with. Taking two shots with a given sensor and its limits can give you much better dynamic range by using different settings to begin with. HDR can be ugly, but used within reason it can give you much better photos.

In other news (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839155)

On Wall St:
Shares in electrical tape makers rose 10% today. A spokesperson said, sales of Black Tape in particular have been strong since the start of the Holiday Season.

Personally, all my devices that have cameras have a small bit of tape placed over the camera from day 1. My phone does not even have one.
So up yours (to 'The Man!')

Spam (2)

joh (27088) | about a year ago | (#45839305)

So many words just because you have no idea what you're talking about...

It's not the camera that is always on. Its the HDR mode that is always on when you use the camera. Reading "always-on HDR camera" and jumping up and down just because you can almost feel the well-known button ("NSA! Spies! They want to see me all day long!!) being pressed is a bit tired now.

Really, it's almost like Spam these days. In the original Mounty Python meaning that coined the phrase (not that /. readers these days would know about that). "You can have Egg and Spam. Or Egg, Bacon and Spam. Egg, Bacon, Sausage and Spam. Spam, Bacon, Sausage and Spam. Spam, Egg, Spam, Spam, Bacon and Spam. Spam, Spam, Spam, Egg and Spam..."

Re:Why "always on"? (1)

asmkm22 (1902712) | about a year ago | (#45839245)

The HDR feature is "always on" not the camera itself, in that the camera can snap HDR photos in real-time without the lag of processing the image into HDR ranges right after it's taken.

My guess is they kind of regret having chosen that name...

has anyone used the 'passive stylus'? (2)

Trepidity (597) | about a year ago | (#45838753)

There's a promo for what it's supposed to do from nVidia here [nvidia.com] . The short of it is that they're trying to replicate what pressure-sensitive active styluses do without requiring you to actually have a pressure-sensitive stylus. Instead it seems to use some kind of pattern-recognition on the input signatures from the passive stylus to figure out what you're intending to do, and does things like vary stroke width with pressure, or treat the back side of a stylus as an eraser, etc. Cool if it works: if you can replicate a more expensive hardware stylus in software, go ahead. But does it work reliably?

If it's anything like the Nintendo DS touch screen (1)

tepples (727027) | about a year ago | (#45838987)

The Nintendo DS has a resistive touch screen that gives a stream of (X, Y) pairs, with the first and last being unreliable. It also gives a raw resistance value that decreases with increasing pressure. Colors!, a homebrew paint program for Nintendo DS, uses the resistance to estimate how much area of the (round plastic) stylus is in contact with the touch screen, and then it uses that to modulate brush size and/or opacity. It's impressive for something so much cheaper than what Wacom was selling at the time.

Re:has anyone used the 'passive stylus'? (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | about a year ago | (#45839003)

Looks nice, but are these styluses, like this and the S Pen, implementing for the Android stylus API?

Re:has anyone used the 'passive stylus'? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839251)

Yes. I've had it for 2 weeks now, and I've already become habituated to using the stylus.
It's rock solid, and much better than using my big grubby fingers to navigate the touch screen.

I initially bought the Tegra Note because of rumors of good speakers.
It does have good sound. The speaker magnets are strong enough to stick the tablet to my refrigerator.

I've also noticed the slightly yellow screen hue as reported in some reviews.
The HDR was a surprise to me. I needed to take a picture of the inside of my garage door.
It's dark in my garage, and I briefly questioned the idea of having a camera without a flash.
However, the HDR was able to give a surprisingly good picture in dim light. It shows details that I couldn't see with my own eyes.
Unfortunately, the lack of a flash is still a problem since I frequently use my phone flash as a flashlight.

The tegra note is my new favorite tablet.

Re:has anyone used the 'passive stylus'? (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | about a year ago | (#45839349)

I wonder how the stylus compares to the active wacom digitizer in the Galaxy Note?

I'd expect it's not even comparable but nvidia sure seems to be pimping the "DigitalStylus" feature quite a bit.

Re:has anyone used the 'passive stylus'? (1)

Shinobi (19308) | about a year ago | (#45843511)

Yeah, I'm interested in that too. I own a Galaxy Note, and it's absolutely wonderful for taking notes, scribbling down flow charts, formulas etc, but would be nice to know if there were perhaps even better things coming along.

Re:has anyone used the 'passive stylus'? (1)

CowTipperGore (1081903) | about a year ago | (#45847575)

I haven't tried it myself but I read the review on Anand's site a month or so ago and they were very impressed with how it worked. NVIDIA's Tegra 4 SOC has a quad-core CPU plus a low-powered fifth core invisible to the OS. Apparently NVIDIA is using some proprietary algorithms on this "stealth core" to handle the stylus processing.

lack of inTEGRAty (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45838759)

No thanks, nVidia. I'm not buying any more Tegra products unless you release the drivers so that CM can work properly with them.

7" (-1, Flamebait)

nurb432 (527695) | about a year ago | (#45838849)

Worthless.

Re:7" (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45838955)

Your wife agrees.

Re:7" (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#45839151)

To you.

You are not everyone else, nor vice versa. Thankfully.

He's a sicko (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839603)

What I wanna know is what the fuck is up with his sig? It actually sounds to me like he's celebrating the death of Lincoln and wants the slaves re-enslaved. What kind of bastard is this guy?

Re:He's a sicko (1)

compro01 (777531) | about a year ago | (#45841929)

What kind of bastard is this guy?

The blah-blah-states'-rights-blah-blah kind if I remember them explaining sometime.

Re:He's a sicko (0)

nurb432 (527695) | about a year ago | (#45842173)

If you are not intelligent enough to understand what it means without hand holding, then there is no hope for you and you are simply a drain on the system.

Tho its against policy, why not read up on the civil war, and what it was really about. Hint: it was NOT about slavery.

Moron.

Re:He's a sicko (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45843793)

Haven't you heard?

Nobody cares about the humanities now. You'll find that in many countries they don't even offer it at their major universities...

Re:7" (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about a year ago | (#45842163)

What i want is all that matters.

Re:7" (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about a year ago | (#45844377)

...to you.

And quite probably only you.

Re:7" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839577)

Y'all should have a look a the homepage of this POS.

only 1280x720? (1)

sir-gold (949031) | about a year ago | (#45838957)

Considering that modern smartphones are coming with 1920x1080 resolution on a 5inch LCD, 1280x720 is pathetic on a 7 inch LCD.

Re:only 1280x720? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45839181)

It is all down to price.
They have to use a cheapo screen to get the thing out at uner $200.
Like low end laptops that are stuck using the same crap 1366x768 screens just to meet some stupid price expectation.

 

Re:only 1280x720? (4, Informative)

symbolset (646467) | about a year ago | (#45839315)

The nexus 7 is 1920x1200 at 300 DPI for $199 just about everywhere.

Re:only 1280x720? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45843279)

google is selling it for around 350 where i live.
while the tegra 4 based is selling for 300.
I suppose google needs to sell it high to make up for the subsidy given to US customers.

Re:only 1280x720? (1)

symbolset (646467) | about a year ago | (#45843381)

Do they not have eBay or Amazon where you live?

Re:only 1280x720? (1)

mjwx (966435) | about a year ago | (#45844273)

Do they not have eBay or Amazon where you live?

Amazon refuse to ship to my country (Australia) so I'll have to buy it using a US credit card to a freight forwarder.

EBay, although I wont have to pay for the freight forwarder I'd still have to pay shipping and take the risk with dodgy products (or getting damaged in transit).

These aren't alternatives.

Re:only 1280x720? (1)

Teckla (630646) | about a year ago | (#45839385)

The submitter got the resolution wrong. It's 1280x800, which is actually a quite nice DPI for a 7" device that's only $200.

Re:only 1280x720? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45841295)

I'm sorry, are you from the past?

Re:only 1280x720? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45842749)

It also has an microSD card slot which actually pushes it over the top for me. And a mini-HDMI out as well.

Google's philosophy of "no card slots" is terrible.

More, more, more of the same (3, Interesting)

joh (27088) | about a year ago | (#45839137)

I recently handled a Lenovo Yoga 8 tablet. This thing has paltry specs, but front-facing stereo speakers, an adjustable stand and power and volume buttons you can actually press without looking for them without any risk of pressing them by accident. I was utterly impressed.

Most tablets are just so BORING. There are very few tablets that actually try some new and useful things. Really, being able to put that thing up onto a table and easily adjust the angle so that the camera when using Skype actually shows me and not the ceiling is more useful to me than pushing the benchmarks a little farther out. Why are there so precious few tablets allowing this? Why has even the fine Nexus 7 the power and volume button hidden behind the bezel, all of them in the same shape and close together, so that half of the time you have to first hunt them down and then you still press the wrong one often enough? Why?

Re:More, more, more of the same (2)

guises (2423402) | about a year ago | (#45839975)

The headline is stupid, tablet speed is largely irrelevant - your machine is either fast enough or it isn't. It's not like a PC, where framerate is a moving target.

None the less, the Tegra Note does have a standout feature in the style that you're asking for: it's the cheapest tablet by far to support a pressure sensitive stylus, and supposedly it works quite well. I've considered one of these (over a Nexus 7-2) for the sake of have a little sketch pad.

Re:More, more, more of the same (1)

joh (27088) | about a year ago | (#45840241)

Yes, if a pressure-sensitive stylus is your thing, this is interesting. But I have never missed that (or any stylus at all). I would gladly take it as a feature, but this is just ONE thing of many that people may want besides a screen on the front.

What I was saying is that almost all tablets are of the most generic kind, with everything but the hardware and the price being judged as totally unimportant. Some try to stand out with the fastest specs, others with the cheapest price and that's it. It's as if you could just buy cars with four wheels and an engine and some would try to have the most powerful engine and others the most cheap price and none came with air condition or seats you actually want to sit on or even a trunk to put your luggage into.

The current state of the art in tablets is really pathetic.

Re:More, more, more of the same (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45846967)

there are ruggedized tablets as well, but apple ruined this market by not making a ruggedized version of the iOS devices at all, and use a stupid aftermarket case to address the issue.

If panasonic could get the cost of the toughpad closer to consumer levels, I would love to get one. It's the only tablet that you can link to a satellite phone to use skype, beat a shark to death in salt water, drop it 20 feet onto a steel deck, and then watch a youtube video when you got to a place with wifi.

I don't care about this, but... (1)

PNutts (199112) | about a year ago | (#45841801)

I had to come read it to cleanse my palate after glancing at the flute story. JFC, Slashdot!

Cores for concern? (1)

Tijaska (740114) | about a year ago | (#45843667)

Interesting that we have 2 or 4 core processors handling program execution, and in the same device 72 cores handling graphics processing. The GPU cores are much simpler and smaller than the CPU cores, but get through a lot of processing. Some of the most cost-effective supercomputers built use GPUs to handle compute-intensive processing. Maybe it's time to do the RISC thing all over again and radically reduce the complexity of the CPU by reducing its instruction set size so we can pack 72 simple CPU cores onto a single silicon chip.

Not that exciting... (1)

rklrkl (554527) | about a year ago | (#45844247)

I saw the specs for the Tegra Note a while ago and got a bit bored with them because:

1. It's not a Nexus device, so is already behind with its Android version. Now it may be with the many updates to the Nvidia Shield, we might see speedy updates to the Note as well, but until this actually happens, I'll err on the side of caution.

2. I would prefer an 8" display in the same dimensions and weight as a typical 7" tablet (e.g. reduce the bezel width). 7" displays aren't just quite large enough, IMHO.

3. The screen resolution is 1280x800, not 1280x720, but even so that only matches the 2012 Nexus 7 from 18 months ago and partially explains why its graphics benchmarks are so good.

Having said all that, Currys in the UK are selling it [currys.co.uk] at 129.99 pounds ($215), which is actually a very good price for a decently spec'ed tablet in the UK.

actually it is quite exciting! (1)

deppman (2649539) | about a year ago | (#45847503)

This is a copy from my post on Engadget, Modesto updated. The tablet has many compelling USPs, and is a great successor to the Kai platform developed by nVidia and used in the OG nexus 7. If the nexus 7 is news on Slashdot (as it often is) then why wouldn't this be? ======== I have one and am stylus-swype typing on it right now. As a mobile web developer, I use a half dozen different tablets regularly, and this is my favorite. Key points: 1. Stylus is awesome. Get the fine tip for impressive accuracy. Use it to type or select small web elements, or sketch, or circle screen grabs to share. Pressure sensitivity is impressive, and document editing is so much easier. 2. The silk screen on mine is vastly more muted than the photo, so you can barely see the markings. So it actually looks pretty good. I like the grippy bow tie. And impressive build quality. 3. SD card slot. Drop in a 64gb ultra speed card and you get an 80gb tablet. And yes, the "move to SD" feature works great. Just adding 48gb to an apple tablet cost what these days, $200? 4. HDMI out. Both nexus and apple refuse to provide this or the sd card. 5. Font facing stereo *loud* speakers. What a revelation! With a resonance port, they even have some bass. Vastly better than most tablets where you have to cup your hand around the back to hear anything. 6. Very, very fast. Faster than a Samsung Note 3 for 1/3 the price! In many applications, frame rates are 2-3x the 2013 nexus 7. 7. AO HDR is very useful in difficult lighting situation. Many times I can capture much better images than with my nexus 4. In all it is a great media player, game player, and small productity tablet at a great price. Just do get the screen protector.
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